the snap general election thread

Moby

Conrad wrote: »

They claim only she has the abilities to negotiate Brexit.


Corbyn with his wally parrots, Farron and Sturgeon on either shoulder, would be a blizzard of competing aims and spineless hat doffing to Brussels.


I'm surprised you guys that dislike uncertainty (Moby specifically mentioned this) and change would wish to take a massive leap in the dark with the Coalition headed by the Communist Party of Great Britain.

The greatest uncertainty in this election has been May's character and promises. At least with Corbyn you know who he is and what he stands for. May has no beliefs. Her motives are the pursuit of power for the sake of power.

Moby

Fella wrote: »

Blah blah blah yawn.

What a pathetic response. You're mugged up & rather than be big enough to say "fair enough, I asked for proof & you provided it" you go off on some pathetic little whine.

Last time I waste my time responding to your bile.

Your 'proof' that Corbyn supported the IRA bombing campaign was spurious nonsense.

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

The greatest uncertainty in this election has been May's character and promises. At least with Corbyn you know who he is and what he stands for. May has no beliefs. Her motives are the pursuit of power for the sake of power.

You're right, it's a certainty we'd all be harmed by his economic blizzard. I'd love to believe in his fairy tale simplistic warm words, but unfortunately I have an active intellect that keeps getting in the way

wotsthat

kabayiri wrote: »

It was more than a lie. It was distraction politics at it's finest.

Osborne, guided by Hamish I guess, had come out with these detailed apocalyptic predictions of national losses to every individual family, down to the nearest hundred pounds, seeing way out into the future.

Switching to the £350m (not bn, btw) changed the discussion to a bicker fest. It was tactics suiting BoJo and friends.

If Osborne had not been so high n mighty / arrogant, I think the discussion could have taken a different path.

The leave campaigners scoffed and ridiculed the silly, overly detailed, claims of Osborne rather than debate them. The remain campaign should've done the same with the more outlandish claims of the leave campaign.

steampowered

Conrad wrote: »

I saw little populism in the official Leave campaign.

Really?

Fella

Got to love it when a Momentum type mugs themself up so badly in an online argument that all they do is set their cause back

Hopefully a few neutrals will stumble across this thread & be educated on Corbyn & his clique's record of supporting terrorism.

Joe_Horner

Conrad wrote: »

Left wing folk see everything is such simplistic terms that debate is virtually impossible.

That's really quite ironic when the right keep using claims of "bankrupting" the country - a vastly simplistic view which is economically illiterate nonsense in the UK's situation - and consistently fail to address or debate policy, let alone even cost their own, while running a campaign based entirely on personal smears and fear.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

Left wing folk see everything is such simplistic terms that debate is virtually impossible. It's all emotion and magic money tree's, never any tough choices or common sense practicality.

You seem to see life in fairly simplistic terms as well. This isn't some thing unique to left wingers.

Conrad wrote: »

Political Facebook posters in my area are virtually all left wing. A daily drip feed of the most infantile milk n honey nonsense, and so entitled and spoilt always asking for more from the State, never satisfied and never seeing themselves as having some responsibilities (to for example help a Motability neighbour get to the Docs when his scooter broke, oh no its the Governments problem, the Govt must pay for and solve every last little thing, its pathetic)

For most people their individual actions have a much more profound effect on their daily lives than the government ever will. However, the state is the size it is partly because politicians have convinced enough people that they can solve every last little thing.

masterwilde

"The new Prime Minister Theresa May espoused the left in her first speech, with a promise to combat the "burning injustice" in British society and create a union "between all of our citizens" and promising to be an advocate for the "ordinary working-class family" and not just for "privileged few" in the UK. "The government I lead will be driven not by the interests of the privileged few but by yours. We will do everything we can to give you more control over your lives. ... When we take the big calls, we'll think not of the powerful, but you. When we pass new laws we'll listen not to the mighty, but to you. When it comes to taxes we'll prioritise not the wealthy but you"

what a load of crap she spouted......why believe her now?

Filo25

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 44% (-4)
LAB: 36% (+3)
LDEM: 7% (-)
UKIP: 5% (+1)
GRN: 3% (+1)

(via PanelbaseMD / 26 May - 01 Jun)