the snap general election thread

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Conrad wrote: »

Damn the memory is shot to bits, I honestly thought I'd plumped for Labour


I really did do threads on why to vote Labour, mocking the Tory toffs, see if you can find it.

What's the betting he doesn't have "free time" for that?
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(Because Mayo too likes smilies etc.)

mayonnaise

Conrad wrote: »

Damn the memory is shot to bits, I honestly thought I'd plumped for Labour

No worries Conrad, it's all good.

wotsthat

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Has the personal allowance continued to increase. Lifting many low paid workers, and the rest of us out of a bit of taxation?

We're on course to reduce the deficit, once we've done that and we're getting a surplus we can begin to pay down the debt. Once we've paid down sufficient amounts of the debt more money will become available to use on the NHS, welfare, investment, etc...

It's a long game, but the right game. Labour would rather borrow now to buy votes, and that's all it is. Well meaning vote purchasing policies.

I cannot trust Labour with their constant giveaways to be responsible enough to bring the deficit down and begin to pay the debt off to right the ship. The Conservative don't appear to have a problem being hated for doing so, ergo there is a party for that and its the Conservatives. Doing away with the "no tax rise" pledge is more evidence of that.

Honestly don't believe you will ever be able to paint Labour in a positive light with regards to debt and deficit management. Particularly not with John McDonnell in that hot seat.

Corbyn
Abbott
McDonnell
Thornberry

To a lesser extent:

Rayner
Long-Bailey
Chakrabati

Mr Starmer seems reasonable, they need more of that. The 3 in bold are terrible though.

..but don't we all remember 2010 when the big willy waving contest was who could be most austere. The drunk Sailors continued on their shore leave regardless.

Rather than painting Labour in a good light I'm suggesting the Tories are being illuminated by a similar bulb. I'm tempted to spoil my paper - as I said earlier Labour will win my seat hands down whatever I do.

I don't know what it is but once seemingly sensible people get into politics they become addicted to spending other people's money.

Conrad

The pound will be on 'red alert' if the Conservatives was a less than 20 seat majority, traders say




http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pound-sterling-theresa-may-wins-election-2017-majority-what-happens-conservatives-a7754971.html

Fella

A lot has been made of the UK's ability to borrow cheap but you have to think a Corbyn win would see agencies reduce the UK rating to below it's current rating. It's largely forgotten for now but back in 2010 there was lots of genuine fear that sterling was horribly unsafe. One of the things the coalition & Osborne (not that he gets much credit for it) was take us from that to a much more stable footing.

Arklight

The right wingers on this thread seem genuinely rattled.


Good. Very good.

TrickyTree83

Arklight wrote: »

The right wingers on this thread seem genuinely rattled.


Good. Very good.

Would you ever vote Conservative?

I've voted Labour in the past, and Lib Dem. It's got nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with competency.

You ought to try it.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Arklight wrote: »

The right wingers on this thread seem genuinely rattled.


Good. Very good.

Strange that you should say that, it looks like a "Specsavers" moment for you.
Because all the signs of "rattled" are coming from pro-EU supporters, not your supposedly- despised right wingers.

Fella

Arklight wrote: »

The right wingers on this thread seem genuinely rattled.


Good. Very good.

When you label reasonable people as right wingers you make yourself look a fool. Grow up & learn to debate.

As far as being rattled goes, IMO anybody not rattled at the possibility of Corbyn & his horror show of a shadow cabinet getting into power, even if his chance was one in ten-thousand, is far too sanguine.

As it stands he's the second-most likely person in Britain to be PM after the election, an appalling possibility for the country.

Fella

To underline the point, a Corbyn win would see the four most powerful jobs in the country filled thus:

A terrorist sympathiser for PM:
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/jeremy-corbyn-should-not-be-allowed-to-rewrite-the-history-of-his-support-for-the-ira/

A Marxist as Chancellor
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/watch-john-mcdonnell-is-shown-up-by-the-bbc-over-his-marxist-claims/

A Racist as Home Secretary
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16423278

A woman who hates the British flag as Foreign Secretary:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11244687/Labour-front-bencher-Emily-Thornberry-sacked-over-prejudiced-flag-tweet.html

(For simplicity I only listed the most pertinent flaw per person. Obviously it would have been easy to add failings such as McDonnell's support of terrorism or the fact that Abbott is innumerate & so on).