the snap general election thread

System

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

I'm always intrigued by how tribal and dogmatic the die-hard Tory/Labour voter is; how much dross (in policy and personnel) they'll stomach rather than considering voting elsewhere.

I reluctantly vote for what seems the least worst option with minimal enthusiasm.

If everyone did this democracy might work.

This thread proves that people think politics is like supporting a football team, you pick a "team" the start and then blindly follow them regardless of what happens.

Conrad

A reminder of Labour's recent slogans (under Miliband), all long forgotten;


Pre-distribution


The squeezed middle


The zero zero economy (!!!!!!!)


The cost of living crisis


Hardworking Britain Better Off


We're Britain, we're better than this


"A recovery made by the many and built to last"

Conrad

Joeskeppi wrote: »

If everyone did this democracy might work.

This thread proves that people think politics is like supporting a football team, you pick a "team" the start and then blindly follow them regardless of what happens.

I voted Labour in 2010. I did threads on this very forum about it if anyone can be bothered to go digging (I cant)

ukcarper

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

I'm always intrigued by how tribal and dogmatic the die-hard Tory/Labour voter is; how much dross (in policy and personnel) they'll stomach rather than considering voting elsewhere.

I reluctantly vote for what seems the least worst option with minimal enthusiasm.

I'm struggling to find someone I can vote for this time and there is a good chance that I will not vote for the first in decades.

TrickyTree83

Joeskeppi wrote: »

If everyone did this democracy might work.

This thread proves that people think politics is like supporting a football team, you pick a "team" the start and then blindly follow them regardless of what happens.

I'd prefer to sort out the country's finances and then increase welfare spending once we're paying less for the overall debt.

Not borrowing more and more to do a little more for people.

Hardly a tribal view.

kabayiri

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

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I reluctantly vote for what seems the least worst option with minimal enthusiasm.

I'm choosing on the basis of fewest potential scr3w ups tbh.

I take the view that the more ambitious the politicians are, the more chance they have to make a right pigs ear of things.

Sadly, I can recall plenty of costly examples even in the last couple of decades to back up my view.

mayonnaise

wotsthat wrote: »

We're all a mess of biases but some wear it on their sleeves with pride.

Hi wotsthat. Welcome back.

wotsthat

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'd prefer to sort out the country's finances and then increase welfare spending once we're paying less for the overall debt.

Not borrowing more and more to do a little more for people.

Hardly a tribal view.

There isn't a party for that.

The Tories have racked up (and will continue to do so) a shedload more debt. There seems to be an idea that if the PM wears blue knickers rather than red Y-fronts it's something we can turn a blind eye to.

Different sides of the same coin. One spends money like a drunk sailor on shore leave and the other like a drunk squaddy on pay day. Take your pick which is which.

I'm also surprised tax take seems to be ratcheting up with little mention. The media were squealing about stealth taxes when the last Labour government hit similar tax vs gdp rates.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

There isn't a party for that.

The Tories have racked up (and will continue to do so) a shedload more debt. There seems to be an idea that if the PM wears blue knickers rather than red Y-fronts it's something we can turn a blind eye to.

Different sides of the same coin. One spends money like a drunk sailor on shore leave and the other like a drunk squaddy on pay day. Take your pick which is which.

I'm also surprised tax take seems to be ratcheting up with little mention. The media were squealing about stealth taxes when the last Labour government hit similar tax vs gdp rates.

This has all been discussed and explained very clearly earlier in this thread.

Fella

wotsthat wrote: »

The Tories have racked up (and will continue to do so) a shedload more debt.

Indeed. And the people criticizing them for that are the same people who criticize them for cuts & "austerity". Utter hypocrisy.

Some of us agree the increasing debt is unacceptable & think the "austerity" hasn't gone nearly far enough. An opinion anybody is free to disagree with but at least it's consistent.