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  • Conrad
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    Central London? Probably a huge amount of money to be made delivering pizza there. Again, doesn't mean we're (as a whole) getting richer - just that some places are prime market for selling overpriced pizza.




    No not Central London for heavens sake, right across the south and quite a bit of the East
  • Conrad wrote: »
    No not Central London for heavens sake, right across the south and quite a bit of the East
    We know this.
    With some though you're, well ......... beatdeadhorse.gif

    See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism
  • Fella
    Fella Posts: 7,921 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    If you earn more than £80k/year and/or have wealthy relative about to die, then vote Tory.

    For everyone else, vote Labour.

    Simples :)


    The irony is that a Labour Govt, especially one in power for a long time, is a disaster for the relatively young (who are likely to have voted for it) far more than for the pensioners who probably didn't.

    Labour Govts without exception rack up huge debt that will mostly be paid for by those same relatively young people over their working lives. The pensioners certainly won't be paying for it, most of them pay little or no tax.
  • Moby
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    Fella wrote: »
    The irony is that a Labour Govt, especially one in power for a long time, is a disaster for the relatively young (who are likely to have voted for it) far more than for the pensioners who probably didn't.

    Labour Govts without exception rack up huge debt that will mostly be paid for by those same relatively young people over their working lives. The pensioners certainly won't be paying for it, most of them pay little or no tax.

    Not true! http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/03/13/the-conservatives-have-been-the-biggest-borrowers-over-the-last-70-years/ http://www.primeeconomics.org/articles/taq30tk04ljnvpyfos059pp0w7gnpe
  • michaels
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    edited 24 May 2017 at 4:18PM
    Problem is even though this 'tories have borrowed most' meme is for such obvious reasons those who are supposed to hear it will.

    Wuch a shame the tories didn't try to cur the deficit from 10+% of gdp to zero in 2011, it would have gone so well....
    I think....
  • Fella
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    I love the way Labour like to take the years of the "Global financial crash" out of stats, as if they weren't simply the flipside of the boom that preceeded it. The only reason Broon was ever able to pretend to be a credible chancellor was he was raking in squillons of pounds every year from the financial services industry during those boom years.

    There are many things I detest about Broon, but by far the biggest is the way the smug tw*t takes 100% of the credit for how the economy appeared to be doing during the boom, but accepts 0% of the responsibility for the bust that followed it.

    He was an economic incompetent who left the country bankrupt.
  • Moby
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    edited 24 May 2017 at 4:37PM
    Fella wrote: »
    I love the way Labour like to take the years of the "Global financial crash" out of stats, as if they weren't simply the flipside of the boom that preceeded it. The only reason Broon was ever able to pretend to be a credible chancellor was he was raking in squillons of pounds every year from the financial services industry during those boom years.

    There are many things I detest about Broon, but by far the biggest is the way the smug tw*t takes 100% of the credit for how the economy appeared to be doing during the boom, but accepts 0% of the responsibility for the bust that followed it.

    He was an economic incompetent who left the country bankrupt.

    Of course you'll probably blame Jeremy Corbyn for the crash. Read the link properly you'll see the years of the crash were included in one of the tables.
  • Conrad wrote: »
    10 years ago you could acquire a takeaway food outlet without usually paying a premium but now any outlet I've dealt with, from the most basic small fish chip shop are asking for and getting hundreds of thousands of pounds just to vacate the place, and I'm talking RENTAL property here, not freeholds.


    Mate of mine works on behalf of Dominoes and they literally have to bribe some old Greek bloke to give up his chippy by offering him a £1m to 'walk away', so that Dominoes can take over the lease and put a franchise in there.


    Another example of how we don't seem to be getting poorer at coal face reality level

    This is indeed excellent news. (Surely you mean that they offered the old Greek bloke a "business deal", rather than "bribe" :D )

    I have some shares in Domino's Pizza Group! :T

    Keep those shops opening. Ain't share owning democracies great?

    WR
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
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    edited 24 May 2017 at 5:01PM
    Labour Candidate to voter:
    We will give you free groceries backdated to last year
    We will introduce a negative tax rate
    We will reverse the Tory kitten tax and make camels free on the NHS
    We will abolish speeding tickets and hospital parking charges

    Voter: That's fantastic! But, er, how will you pay for that?

    Labour Candidate:. We will borrow the money

    Voter:. But isn't that spending money you don't have?

    Labour Candidate: Oh no! We will obtain lots of IOUs from you.;

    Edit:

    PS

    Labour Candidate: I don't like Corbyn either
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    So we're all a lot poorer than a decade ago, mmm; (and for the not so sharp, keep in mind just because we see a rise in low cost outlet does not imply spending on fitness is increased well on 10 years ago - low cost gyms owners saw a gap in the market just as did Aldi)


    http://www.leisuredb.com/blog/2017/5/5/2017-state-of-the-uk-fitness-industry-report-out-now

    8th May 2017

    The 2017 State of the UK Fitness Industry Report reveals that the UK health and fitness industry is continuing to grow.


    greater market value than ever before.


    There are now over 9.7 million fitness members in the UK which has boosted the penetration rate to an all-time high of 14.9%.


    1 in every 7 people in the UK is a member of a gym.
    The 2017 report highlights that the industry has experienced another year of impressive growth over the twelve month period to the end of March 2017,
    • Total market value is estimated at £4.7 billion, up 6.3% on 2016.
    • The UK penetration rate is 14.9%, compared to 14.3% in the previous year.

    All interesting statistics but all it shows to me is that people are lazy, eat the wrong food and can afford to waste money on gym membership.

    If people walked more, used the stairs more often, were not so addicted to their car, were willing to walk to where they need to be they would be fitter. I see unfit people in offices who would rather email a colleague a few desks away than get off their backsides and walk 10 metres.

    If more people could be bothered to cook healthy meals rather than drive to a McDonalds and collect their food through a car window then they would be healthier and fitter without the cost of membership.

    But as you say the trend is rising. At least it keeps people in work.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
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