the snap general election thread

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Conrad wrote: »

What!!!!!


Do you not see the world around you?
So many now have had costly treatments done that were not nearly as common 10 years ago. Everyone knows this surely?Look a few nails later on today!


If you don't even recognise this, then truly you are utterly disconnected from reality.


Try watching a bit of TV on ordinary women and girls tonight or pick up some mags.


Hardly anyone had teeth whitened 10 years ago, but now every other woman I know has, and a lot of blokes. That's one tiny example of the grooming boom. Not a sign of us getting poorer.

Absolutely agreed.
I was not being facetious earlier when saying I personally do not have my nails done; the growth in male grooming has been well-reported-upon for some time as in:

Male Brazilian blow-dries for men are up by 200%, waxing up by 85% and – according to data from the Treatwell app – 25% of men have regular manicure appointments.

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2016/nov/24/why-male-beauty-treatments-are-growing

Denying the surge is frankly ridiculous. (Ahem! Behave - I did clearly say "Blow-dries." )
Besides, who on earth could afford to continue to maintain premises that don't make a profit?

Conrad

We're getting poorer;


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/face/teeth-tweakments-will-make-look-instantly-younger/


3 December 2016 • 8:00am

Smiling is big business. Huge, in fact. According to market research analysts Mintel, the cosmetic dental care market is worth £2.4 billion, up 73 per cent from 2012.

Fella

Arklight wrote: »

Why don't you read the Labour manifesto, which, unlike the Tory manifesto, actually does detail how things will be costed. Then if you have a specific complaint you can come back here for help?


Currently you are ranting and wailing because a 126 page document, which has a further 8 page document specifically on costing, appended to it, isn't being explained to you in two sentences with smiley faces on MSE.


Let me get you started:


Manifesto and funding rationale: http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/manifesto2017

Smiley faces: :-D


Now retreat to your safe space, calm down a bit, and come back when you've got something to say.

And again, you refuse to even try to answer the question because you can't.

Also when someone makes a sensible argument & you say stuff like "retreat to your safe space, calm down a bit" you sound like a petulant child who's been allowed to stay up at the adults table past his bedtime.

Conrad

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

the growth in male grooming has been well-reported-upon for some time as in:
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Honestly it's as if people really do live in some echo chamber bubble, oblivious to reality. I wonder what they'd make of trip to a high street booming with expensive Turkish Barbers (they are springing up everywhere), CACI treatment services (most women we know are spending hundreds on this and similar such as temporary facelifts) etc etc


Just look at the women and girls interviewed in Manchester yesterday - many you could see are clearly spending on lip fillers, permanent makeup, tanning, teeth whitening, posh nails etc etc

Herzlos

westernpromise wrote: »

Which party shall I vote for?

If you earn more than £80k/year and/or have wealthy relative about to die, then vote Tory.

For everyone else, vote Labour.

Simples

Conrad

10 years ago you could acquire a takeaway food outlet without usually paying a premium but now any outlet I've dealt with, from the most basic small fish chip shop are asking for and getting hundreds of thousands of pounds just to vacate the place, and I'm talking RENTAL property here, not freeholds.


Mate of mine works on behalf of Dominoes and they literally have to bribe some old Greek bloke to give up his chippy by offering him a £1m to 'walk away', so that Dominoes can take over the lease and put a franchise in there.


Another example of how we don't seem to be getting poorer at coal face reality level

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

Try watching a bit of TV on ordinary women and girls tonight or pick up some mags.

Oh, you're usualy reality TV and magazines to see how ordinary people live? I don't doubt costmetic surgery is up a lot in percentage terms (from small actual numbers), but I don't think it's that common for most people. Same with getting nails done, etc. There's a vocal minority though, and that may be skewing things.

As I said, I've seen a lot of nail and brow bars pop up (theres at least 6 in my nearest big shopping centre), but they are almost always empty, and in cheap-rent spaces.

Hardly anyone had teeth whitened 10 years ago, but now every other woman I know has, and a lot of blokes. That's one tiny example of the grooming boom. Not a sign of us getting poorer.

It's a growing trend certainly, but I have to say that I know of precisely 0 people in my social circle (male or female) that have had it done.

So again; this stuff may all be perfectly normal for your social circle, but that doesn't mean it's perfectly normal for everyone else (or that my world view* is representative either).

On cars, I sort of agree - when I passed, my dad bought me a £200 banger, and for the first 3-4 years of passing all of my friends drove round in what was essentially scrap. Now it seems (I don't know many new drivers) that new cars are more popular (better safety, included insurance, good deals). Cars seem to be a lot cheaper now especially if you can use PCP to hide the capital.

Though I have to say - if we're all getting richer, why is our credit card debt climbing so fast? Is that masking the drop in earnings?

*Mid-30's, married, Glasgow, with a social circle that's mostly low-medium earners.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

Mate of mine works on behalf of Dominoes and they literally have to bribe some old Greek bloke to give up his chippy by offering him a £1m to 'walk away', so that Dominoes can take over the lease and put a franchise in there.

Central London? Probably a huge amount of money to be made delivering pizza there. Again, doesn't mean we're (as a whole) getting richer - just that some places are prime market for selling overpriced pizza.

Mistermeaner

Moby wrote: »

Do only men work then........?

keep digging

you only look more daft

Conrad

Who here recognises this change to their high street: We're getting poorer;


2007 - no or few restaurant chains, a handful of privately owned restaurants, pubs and takeaways, a MaCdonalds, maybe a KFC / Burgerking


2017 - typical small market town in shires near me, just some of the new offerings (on top of private local restaurants and takeaways);


Starbucks
Costa Coffee
Coffee Republic
Muffinbreak
Cote
Prezzos
Pizza Express,
Chimi Changa
Dominoes
Caf! Rogue
Bills
Carlucciou's
Zizzi
Subway
Several big Turkish places choc full of people
A load of trendy bars such as All Bar One and Baroosh




We're getting poorer.......