Parking Charge from UKPC in Scotland

MrsT1970

Looking for some advice as posts I've read appear to relate to England and I'm guessing it's different in Scotland.

Car was parked in Hermiston Gait Retail Park in Edinburgh and on return to car, a Parking Charge was stuck to the windscreen. The times on the charge between First Seen and Issue Time was approximately 15mins and states "Vehicle Owner/Driver left site". Checked the photographic evidence on UKPC's website and there is no proof there that the driver left the site, only photos of the car. Driver did actually leave the site and expected to be back within the time period stated on signs, but didn't see anything about leaving the site.


Now, the main sticky thread states that people should just ignore these Parking Charges in Scotland, but unsure of what will happen next. Previously wouldn't be worried about a charge, but with the recent case of a woman in Dundee being fined several thousands for not paying charges, wonder whether this should just be paid. The charge is £100, but reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days. However, all the wording on the reverse refers to English legislation - Appeals heard by POPLA and collection process of charge is in accordance with Administration of Justice Act 1970 not the Administration of Justice (Scotland) Act 1972.


Any advice would be appreciated.


Thanks

System

but didn't see anything about leaving the site.

If you pass that way again, then get pics of the signs so you can check. Until you know what is on the signs then communicating with UKPC is a waste of time.

This is not ignoring (though heartily recommended) but collecting facts in case you need them.

MrsT1970

I won't be going back to Edinburgh any time soon as I live about 75 miles away. I've tried to google a picture of the signs with no luck, and unfortunately don't know anyone who lives there who can take a photo for me.

fisherjim

The woman that was taken to court let it be known she was the driver that's how they pursued her.

Don't engage with these money scamming muppets!

In any case they won't have any evidence you left site, only the word of an incentivise weasel who, if it is so detrimental to the business that people are incarcerated there, should have mitigated their perceived loss and prevented the escape!

The_Deep

Unless they know who the driver was they are Friar Tucked, so do not tell them.

The lady in Dundee collected 200 tickets and made no secret that she was driving. In any case "leaving site" rarely if ever wins in court.

MrsT1970

So if I ignore this, what would happen next?

pogofish

You get a load of threatening letters over the next six months to a year from the PPC and their shonky debt collectors.

And if you don't contact the PPC and identify yourself as the driver, that's all they can do but one or two people have reported UKPC using Scottish debt collectors to try to track people down and hassle them by phone - If you are one of the unlucky few who get that treatment, stand firm as beyond making-up piles of ordure and threatening you, they cannot do anything at all!

catfunt

Agree - ignore totally.

You will get threatening letters from debt collectors using increasingly desperate language, and using big red scary font but they can be ignored too.

In Scotland, they can only pursue the driver.
And they can only pursue the driver if they know who that is.
They can only find out who the driver is if you contact them and tell them.

You don't contact them, they cannot find out.

If you're unlucky enough to get a phone call from them or a debt collector, just hang up. If you get a call from an unidentified caller or a unfamiliar number, just tread carefully and find out who is calling before answering any questions.

Half_way

as above, however dont use terms like I parked, She parked, He parked and so on.

MrsT1970

So even if they contact the DVLA, get the information that I am the registered keeper, and send further letters, this means a whole heap of nothing as they can't prove I was driving?


I never answer the phone if I don't recognise a number, that's what voicemail is for


Thank you.

Fruitcake

MrsT1970 wrote: »

So even if they contact the DVLA, get the information that I am the registered keeper, and send further letters, this means a whole heap of nothing as they can't prove I was driving?


I never answer the phone if I don't recognise a number, that's what voicemail is for


Thank you.

The driver can be identified by the scammers from the information you have given in your first post. You need to edit it NOW and only refer to The Driver or The Keeper, who are two different people as far as anyone is concerned.

Once you have edited your original post, you will be safe as long as you ignore anything and everything you get from then on.