M6 Toll Refund requested

neilmcl

stator wrote: »

Is that a joke?
Pointing out other people's mistakes has no benefit whatsoever except to make the person who is doing the pointing feel better about themselves.

People who feel the need to point out other people's mistakes without anything constructive to say (90% of the posts on this thread) should just shut up and keep out of it.

Captain Hindsight has the worst super power of them all.

If mistakes aren't highlighted how is anyone else going to benefit.

stator

neilmcl wrote: »

If mistakes aren't highlighted how is anyone else going to benefit.

No-one is going to benefit from "should've done this" stating the obvious attitude.
Might as well tell someone with cancer they should've given up smoking. Doesn't help anyone.

bowlhead99

stator wrote: »

No-one is going to benefit from "should've done this" stating the obvious attitude.
Might as well tell someone with cancer they should've given up smoking. Doesn't help anyone.

Doesn't help *anyone*?

Your latter analogy could result in a reader who had not yet given up smoking, doing so - after reading a thread in which a cancer victim OP was disappointed that there wasn't a cure, and wasn't going to get redress for being 'mis-sold' cigarettes in the 80s because they came with health warnings, and was taunted that he was an idiot for not giving up smoking earlier and should have read the warnings because look where it has got him.

Perhaps the reader of that imagined thread was being blase about their smoking because they either didn't know it could cause cancer because they had never read the T&C on the box or thought there was a simple cure or redress available if you got the cancer so was not worrying about it. Reading such a thread could help convince them to change attitudes.

In this thread you have a person who got 'burned' by not reading the words in the leaflet that the tag came in which explained how it works and said you get a discount on the tolls and there's a maintenance fee of a pound a month, so his account balance was eroded when he didn't use it. The obvious comment is 'too late to do anything about it but next time you buy an ongoing service read the costs and terms of service'.

A reader of this thread who was being blase about not reading terms of service for things they buy with ongoing service contracts such as toll tags or mobile phones or investment accounts or whatever, may see people on the thread cackling that the OP is an idiot for wasting his £30, and think twice about their attitudes to reading service contracts.

This general concept can help them in all walks of life. Whether it's their Toll-tag account or their Moneybox investment account being eroded through £1 a month fees when they're not actively using it, or their pay-as-you-go mobile being at risk of losing the credit and having the sim card voided and the phone number reassigned due to lack of use, it is important to understand up front what ongoing service you will get for what cost when you initially 'top up' your account balance.

So, I disagree that the responses in the thread have little value. They should have the effect of people thinking, "my god, the people here are animals, I could not expect public sympathy here when I lose money through my own failures; I had better be on the look out for situations where I might be risking losing money through my own damn fault, and try to avoid them".

redux

This may be too far from the topic, but you can also get a toll tag for French motorways.

There is a choice of companies to get them from, and like the M6 Toll it's also worth looking closely at the details. Some have an annual fee and some don't, and the monthly charge if used varies by a factor of more than three (but the highest has an annual maximum). Some are postpaid while one or two articles appear to suggest some to be prepaid.

shaun_from_Africa

stator wrote: »

Is that a joke?
Pointing out other people's mistakes has no benefit whatsoever except to make the person who is doing the pointing feel better about themselves.

So if you knew that someone had parked in a no parking area and had received a ticket for doing so, I assume that if you saw a friend about to park in the same area, you wouldn't warn them about what may happen?

Have you never heard anyone talk about or seen anything written about learning from the mistakes of others?

stator

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

So if you knew that someone had parked in a no parking area and had received a ticket for doing so, I assume that if you saw a friend about to park in the same area, you wouldn't warn them about what may happen?

Have you never heard anyone talk about or seen anything written about learning from the mistakes of others?

None of the posts on this thread have contributed any learning to anyone, whatsoever.
It's just one big troll fest of people who like to feel better about themselves by pointing out the mistakes of others.
Anybody who didn't know about the monthly charge would have learnt about it from the OPs post, so everything else is just a waste of space.