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hyubh

steampowered wrote: »

And the employee contribution for police officers is between 12.44% and 13.78%.

I know (I used to work in LA pensions admin) - the other standout one, historically, was firefighters. *However*, the old police and fire schemes were incredibly generous, structured around retiring after 30 years on 2/3rds final salary. The current versions are much less generous, however they still benefit from lower than typical NPAs, and of course, are still DB like other public sector schemes.

I don't know what the average is across the entire public sector.

Certainly not 12%! E.g., the LGPS average is intended to be 6.5% (there's a lot of low-paid workers in the scheme); the TPS and civil service scheme costings aren't radically different.

I think the point remains that people working in the private sector need to pay more towards their pensions if they want a decent retirement.

Well of course. Contributing the same won't get the same however, given public sector pensions are on a fundamentally different basis to modern private sector ones since the collapse of private sector DB.

Muscle750

My FS pension has a £18 million black hole in it .............Fire service 2/3s final salary after 30 years ..............Thats why they threw a wobble when they changed it saying How do they expect us to climb ladders etc at 55 etc ...............why are they different to people working in a heavy manual job in the private sector? Too good too long.................end of

nicechap

Muscle750 wrote: »

My FS pension has a £18 million black hole in it .............Fire service 2/3s final salary after 30 years ..............Thats why they threw a wobble when they changed it saying How do they expect us to climb ladders etc at 55 etc ...............why are they different to people working in a heavy manual job in the private sector? Too good too long.................end of

maybe you'd like to do their job & shift working for their pay?


plus this "benefit"?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39489087

sangie595

nicechap wrote: »

maybe you'd like to do their job & shift working for their pay?


plus this "benefit"?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39489087

Plus, you knowingly put your life on the line every time you go to work. They run towards trouble, not away from it.

hyubh

Muscle750 wrote: »

Fire service 2/3s final salary after 30 years

Like I said, it closed to new members in 2006, and at the same time, ill health rules were tightened up quite a bit. (The 2015 changes were really small beer in comparison.)

why are they different to people working in a heavy manual job in the private sector? Too good too long.................end of

Is this a funny way of saying you think you don't 'deserve' your small FS pension...?

Muscle750

nicechap wrote: »

maybe you'd like to do their job & shift working for their pay?


plus this "benefit"?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39489087

And what about people in the steel making industry subjected to it day in day out. What really pi55es me off with some of the attitude of people in the public sector they think they are a better class of person and deserve the pensions and then throw a right wobble when questioned on its fairness. We all chose our own direction in life that doesnt mean we should be punished for doing so all we ask is to treated fairly

gettingtheresometime

Is he still battling on about this??

Talking about flogging a dead horse

Andy_L

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

Is he still battling on about this??

Talking about flogging a dead horse

He should go and work for bugslet's firm instead of his current employer.

bugslet wrote: »

My drivers must be deliriously happy then:D. They've had a pay rise every year (2.5% from this week) apart from 2009 ( bad year for everyone).

Muscle750

peter3hg wrote: »

Anyone has free choice to work wherever they can get a job. You are perfectly free to get a job in the public sector if you think it's so wonderful. You talk as though the public sector is some special club that you have to be invited to work in rather than just applying for a job like anywhere else.
We "deserve" the pensions because we applied for jobs that contained those pensions as part of the total reward package. If the pension scheme I was in was significantly worsened then I would move into the private sector unless the salary was increased to compensate.

"Deserve" do me a favour we had a FS scheme yet had no say in it stopping what did we do to deserve that put upon us..............nothing and you lot throw your toys out the pram and threaten strikes when they suddenly woke up to what a complete pi55 take the public sector pension system is

Wayne_O_Mac

I strongly advise you to consult a mental health professional.