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  • You may be struggling here, since this is precisely why some companies fold and relaunch with to a new name and Companies House registration- to avoid debts, like yours.

    There are companies that will chase court judgments for you, but theres usually an upfront fee which can be large and theres no guarantee, as my FIL found out to his cost.

    I'm sorry, but I think you may not see your money again, and although it hurts I'd probably advise not spending more money to get it back, or you could be further in the red.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Right I finally got letter through from the court in my favour without a hearing ordering DFC Cars to pay me just over £2k

    Them slimy Bas**** have gone and changed their company name to these:

    http://www.egcars.co.uk/find_us.php

    What can I do about this now?
    Depends...

    This is the single most important question you need to answer :- did you buy from Smith Ltd, or did you buy from Mr Smith, trading as "DFC Cars"?

    If you bought from Smith Ltd, and they've closed, then the entity that owes you money simply no longer exists.

    If you bought from Mr Smith, then what name he trades as is irrelevant.

    That new domain name is registered to a Mr D Carvalho, who is listed as a sole trader at the same address - so if he's just changed the trading name, then your claim would likely still be valid, because it's against the individual.

    However, there IS a DFC Cars Ltd... The directors do not include Mr Carvalho, but they do seem to be of a similar national background to his name - and one of the directors gives that same Lechlade trading address as his contact address. If you bought from that limited company, then that's who your claim is against, and EG/Mr Carvalho are irrelevant.

    So... WHO did you buy from?
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    Right I finally got letter through from the court in my favour without a hearing ordering DFC Cars to pay me just over £2k

    Them slimy Bas**** have gone and changed their company name to these:

    http://www.egcars.co.uk/find_us.php

    https://ebayshowroom.ebaymotorspro.co.uk/emp/showroom.html?cid=1n3lTsRuVc6K%2F04OWZDxWQ%3D%3D&lid=9290

    What can I do about this now?

    DFC Cars Limited is still an active limited company

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09509160

    Thus you need to (continue to) pursue them.
  • atlantis187
    atlantis187 Posts: 1,550 Forumite
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    I bought the car from there branch in Watton trading as DFC Cars ltd.
    I made the claim against there branch DFC CARS at Lechlade because that’s the address that was written on the receipt they gave me that was probably their head office.

    Their director who was defending the case for them is a Darcy Filho.
  • just a bit of an update and also require a little more advice.

    So I instructed dcbl HCEO to get the writ and chase this for me.
    They rang me yesterday saying that they have been to the premises and all the vehicles they have are backed up by paperwork owned by the new company but told me that there is about 3 pc computers that they cant provide paperwork for and are looking at seizing these and they told me they are emailing me an indemnity form for me to print sign and send back.

    Me not being very clued up about these things just did that and later I rang them again and asked what the form actually means they said the form is to cover them and their costs and if the computers dont sell at the acution for a high enough price then I will have to pay the difference to them to cover their costs. and their costs are already up to £1500 plus the £2k original debt they are chasing for me.

    There costs seems extortionate to me can they actually do this?
    I wish I had never sent the form back now as I look like I have already lost the original £2k and now will have to pay for dcbl's costs on top of this.
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    Yes they can do this.
    Wow I can't believe you'd sign an indemnity over them seizing 2 computers
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    There costs seems extortionate to me can they actually do this?
    Of course. How many people turned up at the site? How much equipment? If they were preparing to seize one or more vehicles, I presume there was a van plus a car transporter, at least?
    I wish I had never sent the form back now as I look like I have already lost the original £2k and now will have to pay for dcbl's costs on top of this.
    Any costs on top of what they can recover from flogging a couple of used PCs at auction... Look on the bright side, they might fetch £50-100 each, if they're any good.

    These are the risks you take.
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    They don't just turn up with recovery tricks! They will call for trucks if they need to whilst at the premises.
  • Mercdriver
    Mercdriver Posts: 3,898 Forumite
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    just a bit of an update and also require a little more advice.

    So I instructed dcbl HCEO to get the writ and chase this for me.
    They rang me yesterday saying that they have been to the premises and all the vehicles they have are backed up by paperwork owned by the new company but told me that there is about 3 pc computers that they cant provide paperwork for and are looking at seizing these and they told me they are emailing me an indemnity form for me to print sign and send back.

    Me not being very clued up about these things just did that and later I rang them again and asked what the form actually means they said the form is to cover them and their costs and if the computers dont sell at the acution for a high enough price then I will have to pay the difference to them to cover their costs. and their costs are already up to £1500 plus the £2k original debt they are chasing for me.

    There costs seems extortionate to me can they actually do this?
    I wish I had never sent the form back now as I look like I have already lost the original £2k and now will have to pay for dcbl's costs on top of this.

    You were warned...
    walwyn1978 wrote: »
    You may be struggling here, since this is precisely why some companies fold and relaunch with to a new name and Companies House registration- to avoid debts, like yours.

    There are companies that will chase court judgments for you, but theres usually an upfront fee which can be large and theres no guarantee, as my FIL found out to his cost.

    I'm sorry, but I think you may not see your money again, and although it hurts I'd probably advise not spending more money to get it back, or you could be further in the red.
  • atlantis187
    atlantis187 Posts: 1,550 Forumite
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    well when the girl rang me from their office she said the officers are at the site and are wanting to remove 2 vehicles a BMW and a freelander and she said I need to sign this indemnity form for them to do this.
    So I thought the cars could potentially recover most of the costs that's reason I went ahead with it.

    Then later she rang back and said they managed to provide paperwork for the cars and they didn't end up seizing these and instead they seized a couple of pc's.

    I wasn't aware the were going to take just the pc's because obviously they will only sell for peanuts so in essence dcbl have duped me into signing this indemnity form and not done what they said they were going to.

    Have I got anyway of cancelling this indemnity form because they lied to me.
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