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Should I change my driving style for other road users?
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splishsplash wrote: »OP, you drove like a kn*b. You accelerated when someone behind you was clearly trying to overtake, and you almost caused an accident.
Another driver doesn't 'appear' behind you unless they are travelling faster than you. You don't need to be a brain scientist to figure that one out. It's simple physics.
So yes, you need to change your driving style.
Oh so you were the idiot behind him then. That's how you know he drove like a kn*b.0 -
I am fully aware that two wrongs do not make a right, thank you for mansplaining it to me.
However, why is it that the criticism being more fiercely levelled at the person being overtaken for not adjusting their speed, when it is the fact that the person who is overtaking has obviously exercised bad judgement in attempting to make a manoeuvre that was obviously not safe.
The OP was perfectly within their rights to accelerate from 30 to the national speed limit at the sign and then cruise at that speed.
I have been driving long enough to have experienced similar situations and have let the other drivers pass.
It is a case of the sensible person having to accommodate the actions of the idiot.
And, btw, when it comes to driving my parents, both ex police and one a police driver, always told me "You can't go faster than the car in front!"
First, find a dictionary, and then look up "pragmatism".0 -
splishsplash wrote: »OP, you drove like a kn*b. You accelerated when someone behind you was clearly trying to overtake, and you almost caused an accident.
Another driver doesn't 'appear' behind you unless they are travelling faster than you. You don't need to be a brain scientist to figure that one out. It's simple physics.
So yes, you need to change your driving style.
I was already accelerating when the person decided to overtake. He didn't start to overtake until I had quickly increased my speed from 30mph to 40-45mph and was clearly still accelerating.
And he did indeed 'appear' behind me because he was travelling faster. Although I'm not sure how he managed this as I was doing the 30mph limit. Unless, of course, he was breaking the law. And the speed at which he appeared made me think he was doing at least 50mph in a 30 zone until I got in his way.0 -
I was already accelerating when the person decided to overtake. He didn't start to overtake until I had quickly increased my speed from 30mph to 40-45mph...
At which point, you maintained a steady speed and let him past, right?And he did indeed 'appear' behind me because he was travelling faster. Although I'm not sure how he managed this as I was doing the 30mph limit. Unless, of course, he was breaking the law. And the speed at which he appeared made me think he was doing at least 50mph in a 30 zone until I got in his way.
A 20mph closing speed is less than nine metres - two car lengths - per second. Given that your eyesight is, I presume, up to the minimum legal requirement of reading a number plate at 20 metres, I would assume that you can see a car in your mirror at the usual motorway two-second gap of 63 metres separation - or much, much further? That separation alone would have taken him seven seconds to close.
Whether he was breaking the law or not is irrelevant. You are not, I presume, traffic police? This thread is not about his standard of driving. It is about whether you could - should - have made more allowance for somebody driving like a complete muppet.
You asked a question in the subject line of this thread. It has been answered, with reference to an absolutely unequivocal rule in the Highway Code. You don't like that answer, so are now finding reasons why the answer should actually have better suited justifying the actions you did take...0 -
Have a read back at what I've already posted (including my first post). You'll see that everything you've accused me of is incorrect.0
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I think with the money that man has made, the business empire he has built up, and becoming President of the United States, i would say he has every right to be arrogant and self absorbed. In fact, its probably being arrogant and self absorbed has helped get him where he is.
Someone in front of me in a Corsa, offended because i might dare to want to pass them, then not so much.....
My point was that you said the "snowflake generation" is from the last 20 years. Donald Trump is King Snowflake. He cries on twitter because SNL make fun of him, he posts unfounded allegations to distract from his failings, he constantly lies about things that deflate his ego (number of people at his inauguration for example). His "empire" was formed on the basis of a massive loan from his dad, his businesses have been bankrupt 7 times (including casinos!), numerous other Trump brands have failed (the Trump University being just the latest)Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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Maybe. Who really knows? Either way - hes rich. Maybe not multi billionaire rich, but rich.
Lets be honest, with Trump just like with Brexit, people are all for democracy until they dont like the outcome and then they try to undermine it.
I'll take a chance and swap bank balances with him anyways.
Who was it who said a 52/48 split (in favour of remain) would mean a campaign for a second vote? Oh yes Nigel "King Leave" Farage
Who was it who setup a petition on the Government site to say the vote couldn't be binding unless there was a 75% turnout and a clear winner? Oh yes, a Leave campaigner.
It works both ways and while there are certainly a few idiots who won't accept the vote results, you need to separate them from the people who accept the vote but want to ensure the UK / US gets the best deal by continuing to campaign. In 2015 Labour lost the general election, do you think they should do nothing until 2020 or try and hold the government to account?
Trump owes a lot of money to a lot of banks, his balance, if his debts were called in, would be a lot less attractive!Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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If I drove on the assumption that everyone else was a perfect driver I would be lucky to ever get more than 1 mile from home before being invlolved in an accident, I would think that the same applies to nearly everyone.
How many people do you see on the average jouney:- Continue past a roundabout exit while indicating left
- leave a roundabout while indicating right
- accelerate through an amber (or red) light
- pulling out when something is coming
To be a good, safe driver you have to anticipate and deal other peoples' (and your own) mistakes, aggresion and stupidity.
Many road users have died with the words "it wasn't my fault" on their lips, sometimes it is true, but often they failed to plan and allow for all the inperfection that exists in the real world.0 -
My point was that you said the "snowflake generation" is from the last 20 years. Donald Trump is King Snowflake. He cries on twitter because SNL make fun of him, he posts unfounded allegations to distract from his failings, he constantly lies about things that deflate his ego (number of people at his inauguration for example). His "empire" was formed on the basis of a massive loan from his dad, his businesses have been bankrupt 7 times (including casinos!), numerous other Trump brands have failed (the Trump University being just the latest)
The "snowflake generation" is a specific term used to describe those who became adults in the 2010s and has been in use this past 20 years ish - believed to have stemmed from a line in the 1996 Novel "Fight Club" (and subsequent 1999 film) - "You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake
If you want to apply it to one 70 year old out of the entire earths population to try to make a totally unrelated point then thats your prerogative.0
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