Huge speeding fines increase

50Twuncle

Potential crippling fines planned

http://www.saga.co.uk/magazine/motoring/cars/using/the-uks-new-speeding-fines-explained?scid=eml-n|pub|car|na|Mag_Subscriber_Newsletter|Control|25_Feb_2017|Article_2|Button&utm_source=newsletter-25Feb17&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Print%20Newsletter#Speeding%20fines%20rise
Solution - watch your speed !!

DoaM

Hopefully this will be a working link.

Edit: when I posted the text in the OP wasn't clickable ... weird, huh?

Strider590

I'm calling BS on this, you can't slap drivers with fines at 1mph over the speed limit, there's a valid reason why there was a 10% rule.
No reputable sources are showing those numbers.......

Let's not forget this is Saga, known for ensuring elderly and Peugeot drivers, who think that anyone doing more than 15mph under the limit is a "maniac".

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The moneysaving solution is simply to give up your job, then your earnings are zero

However they do in that case have a "fall back" figure, which I believe is £110 a week, and that works out less than the fixed penalty

Car_54

Strider590 wrote: »

I'm calling BS on this, you can't slap drivers with fines at 1mph over the speed limit, there's a valid reason why there was a 10% rule.
No reputable sources are showing those numbers.......

The only reference I can see to 1 mph over the limit comes from the magistrates' guidelines. Isn't that a pretty reliable source?

Nasqueron

Strider590 wrote: »

I'm calling BS on this, you can't slap drivers with fines at 1mph over the speed limit, there's a valid reason why there was a 10% rule.
No reputable sources are showing those numbers.......

Let's not forget this is Saga, known for ensuring elderly and Peugeot drivers, who think that anyone doing more than 15mph under the limit is a "maniac".

10% (+2) is guidance from ACPO, it's not a rule, you can still be done for say 76mph on the motorway if your driving is careless or say 33 in a 30 by a school or if they follow you for a while and you don't slow down (e.g. coming from a 40 to 30, doing 35 for a mile).

Any which way it's not really an issue if you are paying attention to your car as well as the road, given car speedos routinely over report your speed (watch on a sat nav when you do say 70 and it shows you are doing 65 or so) if you're doing 33 it's probably closer to 30 hence those speeding really are pushing the limit

neilmcl

Strider590 wrote: »

I'm calling BS on this, you can't slap drivers with fines at 1mph over the speed limit, there's a valid reason why there was a 10% rule.
No reputable sources are showing those numbers.......

Let's not forget this is Saga, known for ensuring elderly and Peugeot drivers, who think that anyone doing more than 15mph under the limit is a "maniac".

It's always been possible to be done for speeding my going over by 1%. There is no 10% rule, it's simply an ACPO guideline!

Strider590

Nasqueron wrote: »

.............given car speedos routinely over report your speed (watch on a sat nav when you do say 70 and it shows you are doing 65 or so) if you're doing 33 it's probably closer to 30 hence those speeding really are pushing the limit

Or they're overtaking the tool in front who's doing 25 in a 30.

Herzlos

Strider590 wrote: »

Or they're overtaking the tool in front who's doing 25 in a 30.

Which you still shouldn't be doing if you need to exceed the limit to do so :beer:

Strider590

Herzlos wrote: »

Which you still shouldn't be doing if you need to exceed the limit to do so :beer:

But you, I and everyone else reading this would overtake someone doing 25 in a 30 limit, given a clear safe stretch of road. Don't even try to deny it........

In fact when I was learning to drive many years ago, I came across such a situation, my instructor told me to overtake, but I hesitated, I was worried about speeding. He then told me that if I were on my driving test, I would have failed, he said that examiners won't fail you for exceeding the limit slightly in order to overtake safely.
I remember turning up for my test, I was totally petrified of just one thing, coming across a slow driver and having to judge whether to overtake them.

I always assumed that part of the reasoning behind the ACPO guideline of 10%+1, was to allow drivers to overtake other slower drivers, reducing congestion, reducing frustration and increasing safety.

neilmcl

Strider590 wrote: »

But you, I and everyone else reading this would overtake someone doing 25 in a 30 limit, given a clear safe stretch of road. Don't even try to deny it........

No, I think most people wouldn't, particularly if it's in a residential area.

Strider590 wrote: »

In fact when I was learning to drive many years ago, I came across such a situation, my instructor told me to overtake, but I hesitated, I was worried about speeding. He then told me that if I were on my driving test, I would have failed, he said that examiners won't fail you for exceeding the limit slightly in order to overtake safely.
I remember turning up for my test, I was totally petrified of just one thing, coming across a slow driver and having to judge whether to overtake them.

If anything I call BS on this, either that or you had a pretty poor instructor. Explains it all, now I come to think of it