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council tax exemption for permanent severe mental or social impairment...

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  • Tommo1980
    Tommo1980 Posts: 406 Forumite
    The criteria aren't subjective at all. They are easily quantifiable and straightforward to apply.

    A competent and qualified medical professional should have no issues making the determination.

    It is the armchair medical 'experts' that cause the confusion.

    Tom
  • faerielight
    faerielight Posts: 1,955 Forumite
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    I posted this to find out what the criteria was for it.PD is severe mental impairment, and severe impairment of social functioning, without a doubt and is permanent in the majority of patients. It isn't impairment of intelligence though,and I think you're right, and it is the "and "in the statement that is important, therefore,I realise I am not entitled to this. If it said "or", I would be., Everybody at the pd centre was given the forms. Thanks for the clarity.
    Many thanks to all who contribute on MSE :)
  • glennevis
    glennevis Posts: 737 Forumite
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    If "everybody at the PD centre was given the forms" then someone at the PD centre needs retraining.
  • Tommo1980
    Tommo1980 Posts: 406 Forumite
    Just to be clear I wasn't trying to downplay the severity of a personality disorder, or compare it to other conditions.

    In the end the only opinion that counts is that of the DR who needs to put their signature to the form.

    Tom
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    For clarification - the 'subjective' part is brought in to it by the fact that no definition is made within council tax legislation of 'severe impairment of intelligence and social functioning' therefore it has to be assumed which definition is to being used and that that is what parliament intended, the specific definition has never fully been clarified (it has not yet been fully disputed in a higher court).

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • CIS
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    edited 3 March 2017 at 9:31AM
    Tommo1980 wrote: »

    In the end the only opinion that counts is that of the DR who needs to put their signature to the form.

    Tom

    As it stands at the moment that is the key until the definitions are fully clarified (which may never happen).

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Ames
    Ames Posts: 18,459 Forumite
    glennevis wrote: »
    If "everybody at the PD centre was given the forms" then someone at the PD centre needs retraining.

    Sadly there's a lot of incorrect benefits advice floating around support services. There isn't the money to buy in someone qualified to run advice sessions so well meaning people do a bit of online reading and start running sessions. I've seen truly shocking advice given out, I remember once correcting every statement someone made until he got annoyed and I gave up.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
  • nannytone_2
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    edited 5 March 2017 at 12:46PM
    if you look for the, there are plenty of examples on this forum from people whose GP's have signed the form without being aware that the impaired intellect criteria also needs to be met.

    people that live alone and are competent enough to ask complex questions on this forum also receive exemption from council tax because their GP has signed the form

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  • CIS
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    I agree with both of the above - spent a lot of time working with advice workers, often having to 'help' them in the right direction.

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • teddysmum
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    edited 5 March 2017 at 12:47PM
    This may be why some of the grouses about people getting help without having to prove anything, while others with obvious problems struggle, came about.
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