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  • On my daughters discharge summary it states she has Chronic, Relapsing and Remitting Schizophrenia. Am I right in thinking that is a permanent condition?
  • CIS
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    rebecca_p wrote: »
    On my daughters discharge summary it states she has Chronic, Relapsing and Remitting Schizophrenia. Am I right in thinking that is a permanent condition?

    I would think so but ultimately down to medical opinion in respect of the council tax disregard.

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
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    I was asked when we applied if she would be able to live alone which she wouldn't then they sent the forms out.
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    thanks guys for your replies. I saw the welfare advisoe at my PDcentre and she said that she knows of a fewpeople with PD that have been granted it and backdated , but that it's all down to whether the gp will sign it. It annoys me that it can't be a psychologist at the centre and has to be a gp as my gp does not know much about mental illness. It also annoys me that I've only just been made aware of this. Patients have to right to be informed about benefits that they may be entitled to! I'm pretty sure BPD is classed as a permanent mental illness. the centre I go to seees it as trying to learn how to cope in more healthy ways, rather than to expect the illness to dissapear
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    It also annoys me that I've only just been made aware of this. Patients have to right to be informed about benefits that they may be entitled to!

    The reduction is no secret - it's been advertised and available since Council Tax came in to existence in April 1993.

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
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    maybe it's just me that hasn't been told of it, but the welfare advisor at the PDcentre said that she was only recently made aware if it
    Many thanks to all who contribute on MSE :)
  • faerielight
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    edited 2 March 2017 at 2:32PM
    As I said the personality disorder centre have given these forms out as many have been accepted due to the severe mental impairment that a PD causes. I will leave it for a decision for my GP to make, not you! My GP will know what the right decision is to make. She has seen these forms before so I am sure she won't be "blindly" signing anything. You don't know me and you don't know how my my personality disorder affects my mental functioning.
    Many thanks to all who contribute on MSE :)
  • Tommo1980
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    edited 2 March 2017 at 5:03PM
    I used to advocate for adults with autism spectrum disorder. Even those at the severe end of the spectrum weren't categorised as SMI. There would have to be a severe accompanying learning disability (i.e. very low IQ) for this to apply.

    I have never heard of SMI being applied to a personality disorder, or indeed any mental health condition. Not without a significant and quantifiable impairment of intellectual functioning.

    Tom
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    Tommo1980 wrote: »
    I used to advocate for adults with autism spectrum disorder. Even those at the severe end of the spectrum weren't categorised as SMI. There would have to be a severe accompanying learning disability (i.e. very low IQ) for this to apply.

    I have never heard of SMI being applied to a personality disorder, or indeed any mental health condition. Not without a significant and quantifiable impairment of intellectual functioning.

    Tom

    I've known quite a few with Autism receive it over the years (obviously on the basis of a Dr's signature) - the issue in question is that the criteria are relatively subjective. Some Drs will happily sign it off and others won't for very similar situations.

    a person is severely mentally impaired if he has a severe impairment of intelligence and social functioning (however caused) which appears to be permanent

    One of the main issues is that Drs sometimes seem to forget about the 'and' in the middle of the criteria when they're signing the paperwork. The term 'severe impairment' is also very subjective.

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • rebecca_p
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    With regards to learning disability

    Significant impairment of intellectual functioning is considered to be represented by an IQ between two and three standard deviations below the mean - IQ 55-69.

    Severe impairment is considered to be represented by an IQ of more than three standard deviations below the mean - IQ<55.
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