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When to start GCES tution?

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  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,309 Forumite
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    I think too it's quite likely to be related to confidence. It's a big problem with Maths, children get it into their heads that they're no good at Maths, and behold, they're no good at Maths! Someone going back to basics and finding things they ARE good at, building confidence and going on from there, a teacher who inspires confidence, parents who encourage them to believe they can do it - it's astonishing what can be achieved.

    BTW I was one of those very able pupils who thought they were no good at Maths. Hated it. Avoided Math-like things for as long as I could. Had to phone a friend from work when I had to work out prices with and without VAT. And so on.

    Ended up running the accounts in various situations: home, work, small voluntary groups. Now, give me an Excel spreadsheet and I can work wonders, AND sanity check the answers ...

    I was also absolutely no good at Art. But that matters less ...
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  • justme111
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    Thought about it further - it looks like the name of the thread is not right; it should not be "tuition for GCSE". It would be right if she was fine with math andbwanted to get the best result at GCSE. It looks like the child needs her baseline math be improved first. Then you may think about tuitiin for GCSE which, if she does not intend to take A level in it I am not sure to which extent is needed.
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • arbrighton
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    justme111 wrote: »
    Thought about it further - it looks like the name of the thread is not right; it should not be "tuition for GCSE". It would be right if she was fine with math andbwanted to get the best result at GCSE. It looks like the child needs her baseline math be improved first. Then you may think about tuitiin for GCSE which, if she does not intend to take A level in it I am not sure to which extent is needed.


    Given the expectation to get a 'good' grade in maths (whatever that is now the system as changed from A* to C) to apply for jobs, I'd say it's very very necessary.

    Going on to take A level or not is not an isue here at all.

    And please, it's mathS in this country (since it's a contraction of mathematicS)

    Math is something that is only done in the USA
  • justme111
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    I was under impression that for a job after school GCSE grades in maths (just so that I do not irritate you unnecessarily) are not that important; that employers would look more at work experience/character/personal recommendations rather than academic grades but I am ready to be corrected as I do not have extensive first hand experience of dealing with school leavers employment. What I seen was done on basis of connections/extracurricular skills/previous volunteering , not grades.v
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • Timpu
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    Have you looked at Yr9 maths books that you could buy? Sometimes having a different book explaining the same concepts in a different way is all that is needed. The other source that could be useful is YouTube. There are certainly maths teachers posting about GCSE papers and I would expect the equivalent for Yr9.

    Btw my parents decided I needed tuition in Maths and I'm not sure it helped, neither my school teachers or the tutor inspired me and I therefore don't think it benefited me. My career is based around maths so it can't have done much harm either but I wish my parents hadn't struggled to make ends meet.
  • MallyGirl
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    justme111 wrote: »
    I was under impression that for a job after school GCSE grades in maths (just so that I do not irritate you unnecessarily) are not that important; that employers would look more at work experience/character/personal recommendations rather than academic grades but I am ready to be corrected as I do not have extensive first hand experience of dealing with school leavers employment. What I seen was done on basis of connections/extracurricular skills/previous volunteering , not grades.v

    It would depend on the job, but I would want to see a reasonable Maths grade for anything in an office / using computers.
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    justme111 wrote: »
    I was under impression that for a job after school GCSE grades in maths (just so that I do not irritate you unnecessarily) are not that important; that employers would look more at work experience/character/personal recommendations rather than academic grades but I am ready to be corrected as I do not have extensive first hand experience of dealing with school leavers employment. What I seen was done on basis of connections/extracurricular skills/previous volunteering , not grades.v
    As I said to my lads, all those years ago, their GCSE grades - especially the Maths and English - would probably only matter for about five minutes, but for those five minutes they would matter very much indeed. And if they didn't get at least a C grade, they'd continue to matter.
    MallyGirl wrote: »
    It would depend on the job, but I would want to see a reasonable Maths grade for anything in an office / using computers.
    We still expect all our applicants to have at least Maths and English at GCSE, often we're after a degree (or equivalent). It is now extremely difficult to get onto a degree without the Maths and English ... or equivalent.
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  • arbrighton
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    Unless a job requires a higher level qualification, most specs do specify appropriate grade in GCSE maths/ english or an equivalent qual. I have looked at job specs recently.

    Oh, and that's often the first filter to get rid of some apps....
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