Electric cars

bob_a_builder

This prog .....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00091x5/rip-off-britain-series-11-episode-12

you will have to jump about a bit due to the BBC's (and general TV's) affliction of assuming that we have the attention spans of gnats and never running a single story in a linear fashion

oldagetraveller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_zdtaJeYmw
Discretion advised as they say!

JKenH

bob_a_builder wrote: »

This prog .....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00091x5/rip-off-britain-series-11-episode-12

you will have to jump about a bit due to the BBC's (and general TV's) affliction of assuming that we have the attention spans of gnats and never running a single story in a linear fashion

That was a bit of a reality check. Might have to hold on a bit longer. TBH range anxiety was always in the forefront of my mind and I am now after a runabout BEV to charge solely from home rather than a long distance cruiser as my Merc and Golf do that very economically. That is why a couple of years ago I ordered a Golf GTE hybrid - most of the fun of an EV without the range anxiety - shame VW never got round to building it.

Martyn1981

5 or 6 ways? Am I being thick, or does the Grauniad strike again?

Powering ahead: six new ways to charge an electric car

Is this the end of the Shell or Esso garage? An extraordinary array of new concepts is set to transform our streets and cityscapes as Britain prepares to switch from petrol to electric cars. But which technology will prevail? Will we be plugging our electric cars to residential street lamp-posts? Attaching them to connected kerbs? Parking over induction pads? Or driving to super-fast charging bays that will replace redundant petrol stations?

Until now buyers of electric cars have mainly been early adopters wealthy enough to afford the high initial outlay, and with a private driveway at home where they can safely connect their vehicle to an overnight charger. But what if you live in a flat or terraced home? In London, four out of five cars are parked on the street, and owners can’t sling a cable across the path and into their home. And it’s not just a big city thing; in Dundee, 51% of residents live in tenements – prompting the local council to pioneer Britain’s most advanced car charging infrastructure.

Eatmybogbrush

All I can say no way to electric cars, after driving my father in laws Lexus Hybrid though.....I was really impressed and would buy one....if I could afford one!


Running out of power on a smart motorway would be terrifying, no way of moving it with no hard shoulder....na!

DrEskimo

Eatmybogbrush wrote: »

Running out of power on a smart motorway would be terrifying, no way of moving it with no hard shoulder....na!

Such a ridiculous comment....

You won't run out of charge with an EV anymore than you would run out of petrol in a ICE. There's a little gauge that tells you when you need to charge....

gzoom

Eatmybogbrush wrote: »

All I can say no way to electric cars, after driving my father in laws Lexus Hybrid though.....I was really impressed and would buy one....if I could afford one!


Running out of power on a smart motorway would be terrifying, no way of moving it with no hard shoulder....na!

Lexus lent us a brand new RX a few years ago to try and entice us...Its very nice inside but the engine feels like a tractor compared to even my old Nissan Leaf at the time, let alone a Tesla which is more comparable in price.



On most EVs give you plenty of warning on range/charge. Ours even draws a real time graph for range prediction based on your journey. To run out of power on a motorway in any EV you have to essentially ignore all the warnings.

Martyn1981

Article on US TM3 sales v's Mustang and BMW 3/4 series. Not sure what the Mustang figures prove, if anything, but outselling the BMW's by a factor of 2 does seem significant to me, as they are comparable(?) vehicles, spec, etc..

I'm going to say (quietly) that BEV's have now won, there just aren't enough yet, and certainly not in the lower sectors, but tick tick tick tock tock tock!

Tesla Model 3 Sales = 2× Ford Mustang Sales or BMW 3 Series Sales (USA)

buglawton

DrEskimo wrote: »

Such a ridiculous comment....

You won't run out of charge with an EV anymore than you would run out of petrol in a ICE. There's a little gauge that tells you when you need to charge....

As long as you've 50 miles left on your petrol gauge and act, you'll be fine. With EV I'm assuming much more forward planning will be needed. Hence the need for electronic maps, route planning and probably a bit of AI!

buglawton

bob_a_builder wrote: »

This prog .....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00091x5/rip-off-britain-series-11-episode-12

you will have to jump about a bit due to the BBC's (and general TV's) affliction of assuming that we have the attention spans of gnats and never running a single story in a linear fashion

This is much the same story that was reported a couple of months back in a big ST magazine featured. Family finds using large expensive BEV vehicle not fit for intended purpose (due to extremely poor charging infrastructure), returns it and buys ICE CAR.

BEV infrastructure now is at about the same stage that home electrification was in 1920.

https://www.myutilitygenius.co.uk/guide/geeks/history-of-electricity/

In 1921, there were more than 480 authorised suppliers of electricity in the UK. They were generating and supplying electricity at a variety of voltages and frequencies.

This is what it took to finally get things in order so we could begin to seriously move forward to full electrification:

The Electricity Act 1926 created a central authority to promote a national transmission system. This system was largely completed by the mid-1930s and was having a voltage of 132KV.

The Electricity Act 1947 brought the distribution and supply activities of 505 separate organisations in England and Wales under state control and integrated them into 12 regional Area Boards. The generating assets and liabilities of a number of companies in England and Wales were also transferred into a single state-controlled body.

The current and recent governments have spent lots of taxpayers cash on studies, consultants and recommendations but basically achieved nothing so far. Will it really need a Corbyn-style interventionist government to knock industry and local government heads together?