Hanwell aircraft noise pollution

booksurr

there are various maps available online showing the noise pathways associated with heathrow and crucially the impact from the 3rd runway

here is one to get you started
http://heathrowflightpaths.co.uk/images/areas.jpg

Cakeguts

Ealing and Hanwell are under the flight paths for Heathrow. One reason why I would never want to live in Ealing because of the noise. It hasn't changed to my knowledge for the last 30 years so it probably isn't going to change anytime soon. If you want a house that isn't on the Heathrow flight paths you need to look in a different place.

Kalamazoo

You really do offer some pearls of wisdom cakeguts

ReadingTim

Cakeguts wrote: »

Ealing and Hanwell are under the flight paths for Heathrow. One reason why I would never want to live in Ealing because of the noise. It hasn't changed to my knowledge for the last 30 years so it probably isn't going to change anytime soon. If you want a house that isn't on the Heathrow flight paths you need to look in a different place.

No, they're really not. Richmond, Kew and Hounslow are under the flight path, Ealing and Hanwell are to the north, as you can see by extending an imaginary centreline of the runways eastwards.

Your current definition of "under the flight path" would preclude living in most of London/the South East.

Cakeguts

ReadingTim wrote: »

No, they're really not. Richmond, Kew and Hounslow are under the flight path, Ealing and Hanwell are to the north, as you can see by extending an imaginary centreline of the runways eastwards.

Your current definition of "under the flight path" would preclude living in most of London/the South East.

So where do those big things that look like aircraft that you can see and HEAR going over Ealing and Hanwell come from?

ReadingTim

Cakeguts wrote: »

So where do those big things that look like aircraft that you can see and HEAR going over Ealing and Hanwell come from?

Who knows? it's an international airport, the flights could have come from anywhere... The point is that you can't really hear them, or if you can, they're indistinguishable from the general noise of traffic, the hubbub of people, next door's landmower, drill, hoover, radio, whatever... Finally, IF YOU HAVE TO SHOUT TO HEAR, you ain't gonna be bothered by aircraft noise....

booksurr

ReadingTim wrote: »

No, they're really not. Richmond, Kew and Hounslow are under the flight path, Ealing and Hanwell are to the north, as you can see by extending an imaginary centreline of the runways eastwards.

Your current definition of "under the flight path" would preclude living in most of London/the South East.

really?

you do realise a flight path is 1.5km either side of the flight path centre line. To say Ealing is not on a flight path is easily rebuffed by a glance at a map - actually it is directly under one of the main departure routes when doing easterly departures (which are, to be fair, very much the minority due to the prevailing wind being from the west):

http://heathrowflightpaths.co.uk/images/current.jpg

ReadingTim

booksurr wrote: »

really?

you do realise a flight path is 1.5km either side of the flight path centre line. To say Ealing is not on a flight path is easily rebuffed by a glance at a map - actually it is directly under one of the main departure routes when doing easterly departures (which are, to be fair, very much the minority due to the prevailing wind being from the west):

http://heathrowflightpaths.co.uk/images/current.jpg

Be that as it may, but if you're coming into Heathrow I'd suggest you'd want to be pretty close to the centre line by the time you're passing Ealing, rather than a mile to the north. And don't forget that the flightpath somewhat tapers to about oh, the width of the runway as you approach....

booksurr

ReadingTim wrote: »

Be that as it may, but if you're coming into Heathrow I'd suggest you'd want to be pretty close to the centre line by the time you're passing Ealing, rather than a mile to the north. And don't forget that the flightpath somewhat tapers to about oh, the width of the runway as you approach....

did you read what I wrote? Ealing is a departure route, not an arrival route. It is its own noise preferential route for departures in that direction:
https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Guide-to-aviation/Airspace/Noise-preferential-routes/

aircraft are more noisy when climbing after take off than when descending to land hence the joy is shared out among 6 directions for easterly departures
http://www.heathrow.com/noise/heathrow-operations/departure-flight-paths

http://www.heathrow.com/file_source/HeathrowNoise/Static/Easterly_operations_NPRs.pdf

An NPR ends when the aircraft is at 4,000ft, it will be over "Ealing" before it gets to that height

Lummoxley

A born Hanwellian here, there will be days during the summer when it's noticeable as you'll have windows open or be outside. Mostly though I think it's not that bad and not nearly as noisy as it was 30 years ago.

Oddly I noticed it more in some of the Hanwell houses/flats I've lived in than others.