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Are degrees in the UK value for money?
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all i am saying is are you a net contributor to this economy or a net taker? are we getting value for the services you provide to us? does your output exceed what we pay you? me thinks not.
Dunno - you'd probably have to ask all the patients whose lives I have impacted over the years whether they would rather I :
a) Was there when they were seriously ill,
or
b) Wasn't there.
What do you reckon their view on my output would be? Just as soon as we can sack the entirety of the NHS then the economy is saved! I can only assume your username is ironic somehow - you really are a ludicrous individual!0 -
Windofchange wrote: »Dunno - you'd probably have to ask all the patients whose lives I have impacted over the years whether they would rather I :
a) Was there when they were seriously ill,
or
b) Wasn't there.
What do you reckon their view on my output would be? Just as soon as we can sack the entirety of the NHS then the economy is saved! I can only assume your username is ironic somehow - you really are a ludicrous individual!
you forgot the option:
c) you were not there and replaced by someone more competent at the lowest cost possible meanwhile let innovation replace the job if it can be done and be done at an even cheaper cost
and i note yet again you are extrapolating way way too much based on what i said. i feel sorry for your patients, they must feel a lot worse after seeing you.0 -
you forgot the option:
c) you were not there and replaced by someone more competent at the lowest cost possible meanwhile let innovation replace the job if it can be done and be done at an even cheaper cost
Yup good luck with that one - let me know when you have programmed the medibot 4000 and where we can get a few thousand on order.and i note yet again you are extrapolating way way too much based on what i said. i feel sorry for your patients, they must feel a lot worse after seeing you.
Do you write your own material? Did you have a natural affinity for put downs or did you have to work at it? I'm off to cry myself to sleep.0 -
Amazing, you've just eradicated poverty (in your mind).
Are you going to heal the sick next (presumably by claiming no one is sick)?
I'm not very keen on dogs. While you're about it can you claim there aren't any, then my local park will be much nicer.
Oh yeah, fat chavs hur hur.
Bless.
Go to a third world country then come back and tell me we have poverty
In your eyes was tax credit woman poor?0 -
Government express concern that the South East of England is a magnet not only to people from overseas but also to the rest of Britain. However successive Governments have done nothing about it.
I had forgotten that Universities are just one small part of the magnet.
A 10000 sqm office in zone 1 might have a rates bill of £1 million a year the same size office in Telford would have a rates bill of £10,000 and after small business relief £0
So the government already has in place a huge advantage to leave London.
We should not further make business unproductive with location specific taxes or policies
Like I say to our lefties we live in a great country where 95%+ of things are really good. Let's not fix what ain't broken0 -
Go to a third world country then come back and tell me we have poverty
In your eyes was tax credit woman poor?
Go to a poor part of the UK and meet some poor people and tell me we don't.
And you really don't want to get into a "Who's the most well travelled" willy waving competition than me. My airmiles statement is much longer than yours.0 -
Go to a poor part of the UK and meet some poor people and tell me we don't.
And you really don't want to get into a "Who's the most well travelled" willy waving competition than me. My airmiles statement is much longer than yours.
So poverty in the uk is so rare I have to travail far and wide to find it?0 -
The lefties try their hardest to ignore reality
There are no poor people in the UK
There are dysfunctional people in the UK who are poor
I have some distant relatives who are poor, they are poor because they are very dysfunctional
I also know some single mothers who have never worked and always been on benefits, they are not poor their homes are clean their kids are polite they eat proper cooked food and have all their needs met. They are not poor because they are functional even though they have zero earned income.
I say we should help the dysfunctional individuals and families it will potentially save them a lifetime of hell. The lefties on the other hand hold up lying single mother nail artists who cry they go to bed starving and have to feed the kids first and then the two big dogs so there is nothing left for them to eat. Their obesity is of course just retained water and not evidence of gluttony or lies of her poverty pleading being fake Yes lets put up her tax credits she obviously hasn't enough the poor dear is unable to afford a third dog and she would ideally like to be another 20kg heavier. I am hoping the job she got with momentum is actually paid so she can stop this idiocy but my gut tells me she is still claiming to be a self employed nail artist and getting all her benefits while now on the road crying about how evil the Tories are and how poor she is0 -
I'm probably the least travelled, the least rich and have experienced tough times.
Our poverty is not like 3rd world poverty granted but there is still poverty here, there are still people trying to decide whether to put the heating on or feed themselves.
When my husband and I split, he cleared out our accounts. I still had all the bills to pay on a fraction of the income and the claiming of top up benefits to my low wages (I had had to take employment around his due to their care needs and the refusal of child care places to take them on), took ages to sort out.
He left me in complete doo doo which took years to recover from. There really was the choice of heating or food and I absolutely dreaded letters home from school detailing a change of uniform or a school trip (contrary to popular belief, there is no allowances or freebies for these in a fair few local authorities). Mine never missed out on the essential trips but a choice had to be made on which essentials could be reduced or cut for a few weeks to enable it.
Unfortunately, the TV programmes are designed to shock or create horror or revulsion and more often than not, do not actually convey the reality of life on a low income or benefits.We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
I'm probably the least travelled, the least rich and have experienced tough times.
Our poverty is not like 3rd world poverty granted but there is still poverty here, there are still people trying to decide whether to put the heating on or feed themselves.
We have dysfunctional people and families we do not have poverty.
Obviously if you can not afford heating and eating you eat. There is no one on earth who is hungry who would put the heating on over eating
And I do not believe there are very many people who actually have to make that choice. For a start if you are on say benefits its quite likely you live in a flat which costs a good deal less to heat than a house.When my husband and I split, he cleared out our accounts. I still had all the bills to pay on a fraction of the income and the claiming of top up benefits to my low wages (I had had to take employment around his due to their care needs and the refusal of child care places to take them on), took ages to sort out.
Yes divorce is hard
Still not the same as true poverty though true poverty is bathing once a week its the army knocking on your door you bribe them or they beat you silly its the courts that are not fair that jail you because someone powerful dislikes you its actual food shortages so that you are sub 5ft in height or sub 4ft for a woman its having to prostitue yourself because you are truly destitute. We do not suffer true poverty in the uk if you are functional you can live a decent life without even working one day of your life.He left me in complete doo doo which took years to recover from. There really was the choice of heating or food and I absolutely dreaded letters home from school detailing a change of uniform or a school trip (contrary to popular belief, there is no allowances or freebies for these in a fair few local authorities). Mine never missed out on the essential trips but a choice had to be made on which essentials could be reduced or cut for a few weeks to enable it.
I am sorry to heat you found it hard but from what you said it was your husbands fault abandoning his responsibility in a particularly bad way. I would be happy to support people in your situation with some sort of emergency funding to tide you over etcUnfortunately, the TV programmes are designed to shock or create horror or revulsion and more often than not, do not actually convey the reality of life on a low income or benefits.
If you look at a benefits website and put in details for anyone with children the benefits/tax-credits/support they get allows them to live a decent life.
So while it might be a husband working a minimium wage job 35 hours a week that is not their only income. For instance a couple aged 35 with two kids aged 5 years old renting a flat for £1,000 in London would get
On top of the husbands £262.50 weekly wage they recieve
£152/pw in tax credits, £165/pw in HB, £35/pw in child benefits, and if they switch to universal credit they would get an additional £20/pw
That example family income is £559/pw
Their rent is £230/pw
They have £330/pw to feed/cloth themselves that seems quite reasonable to me0
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