Landlord wants to evict me and move back in!

Person_one

What on earth did I miss that the OP sent the LL that was so terrible?

Recent posts are reading like the OP told the LL he was glad his relative had died and he was planning to trash the house then set it on fire before leaving in retribution!

From what I can see he offered a negotiated solution, then asserted his rights calmly, then more firmly when he was met with blatant emotional blackmail and attempts to guilt trip. He also let the landlord know about the extra knowledge he has gained in his research that impacts on both of them.

Where was the 'ghastly' in all that?

leslieknope

i wonder why, if the baby is due in april, they waited until their daughter in law is 5 months pregnant to start the ball rolling to move back here..? surely this would mean they are travelling and moving when she is 8 months pregnant. this seems quite thoughtless!

well i have learned about the hmrc tax responsibilities for a tenant renting from an overseas landlord, which i did not know before, so thanks all!

i hope the situation is resolved as amicably as possible and that you find somewhere new to rent.

Newbie78

Person_one wrote: »

What on earth did I miss that the OP sent the LL that was so terrible?

Recent posts are reading like the OP told the LL he was glad his relative had died and he was planning to trash the house then set it on fire before leaving in retribution!

From what I can see he offered a negotiated solution, then asserted his rights calmly, then more firmly when he was met with blatant emotional blackmail and attempts to guilt trip. He also let the landlord know about the extra knowledge he has gained in his research that impacts on both of them.

Where was the 'ghastly' in all that?

Totally agree, seemed very matter of fact to me, considering the landlord was telling the OP to basically leave by March because our plans have changed!! Unvelieveable

Marvel1

leslieknope wrote: »

i wonder why, if the baby is due in april, they waited until their daughter in law is 5 months pregnant to start the ball rolling to move back here..? surely this would mean they are travelling and moving when she is 8 months pregnant. this seems quite thoughtless!
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My guess given the dates, she will be 8 months pregrant and want birth here on the NHS.

GDB2222

Person_one wrote: »

What on earth did I miss that the OP sent the LL that was so terrible?

Recent posts are reading like the OP told the LL he was glad his relative had died and he was planning to trash the house then set it on fire before leaving in retribution!

From what I can see he offered a negotiated solution, then asserted his rights calmly, then more firmly when he was met with blatant emotional blackmail and attempts to guilt trip. He also let the landlord know about the extra knowledge he has gained in his research that impacts on both of them.

Where was the 'ghastly' in all that?

Tactless, then. The tenant's perfectly within his rights, and the LL is perfectly within his rights not to provide a reference.

So, this is lose-lose, which cannot be what the tenant wanted. Indeed, he's said he made a mistake.

molerat

leslieknope wrote: »

i wonder why, if the baby is due in april, they waited until their daughter in law is 5 months pregnant to start the ball rolling to move back here..? surely this would mean they are travelling and moving when she is 8 months pregnant. this seems quite thoughtless!

An old article
http://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/personal-finance/eight-steps-for-a-cost-effective-and-hassle-free-birth-in-the-uae :eek:

Once they've also factored in antenatal classes, postnatal care and the possibility their child may need neonatal care after birth, they're looking at a minimum bill of between Dh20,000 and Dh30,000.

Again a case of cake and eat it I expect.

iammumtoone

I am another one that doesn't think the OPs response to the LL was that bad, especially given the wording on the LLs emails to them.

The only bit that was perhaps a bit off was the with holding of rent but they also clearly reassured them they would get it as soon as the information needed is supplied. The OP is within their rights to do this unlike the LL who has no right just to demand the house back whenever they like.

OP have you checked if your deposit is protected? If not do this as a matter of urgency. Be prepared for a fight when it comes to getting it back.

Mardle

cjdavies wrote: »

My guess given the dates, she will be 8 months pregrant and want birth here on the NHS.

Could it be that she has only just found out she is pregnant and needs to be in the UK for at least 6 months before she can have a free birth on the NHS?

itchyfeet123

GDB2222 wrote: »

Tactless, then. The tenant's perfectly within his rights, and the LL is perfectly within his rights not to provide a reference.

So, this is lose-lose, which cannot be what the tenant wanted. Indeed, he's said he made a mistake.

Again, though, what should he have done? Said, no worries, I'll be out tomorrow? In both the emails he posted, he simply laid out the facts. Bringing up the HMRC was absolutely necessary. The only thing that I guess I could fault him on was the local address and holding rent since it hasn't affected him so far, but then if the LL wasn't a muppet it would never have been an issue.

There was a tone difference between the OP and the LL, but it wasn't that the OP was unprofessional: the OP was factual, while the LL was passive aggressive -- using friendly (intiially) and personal language but trying to do a fast one. The LL pointed to "tone" as well, but to me the LL appears tone-deaf to both his/her own and the OP's communication.

There is nothing the OP could have done, short of agreeing to move out early, to get a positive reference from this landlord.

leslieknope

Mardle wrote: »

Could it be that she has only just found out she is pregnant and needs to be in the UK for at least 6 months before she can have a free birth on the NHS?

the original email said she was due in april. no doubt it is so they don't have to pay out more for the birth in UAE, but they really should have started the plan to move back as soon as her pregnancy was announced. personally if i had been asked to move in 6 months instead of 90 days i probably would have done it. i would have asked them to return my deposit before i move out to cover the costs, but it would have been a lot nicer than an email basically saying we're moving back in 3 months so get out.