Landlord wants to evict me and move back in!

teddysmum

The landlord stated that he and his wife have income tax allowances, which can be used to more than cover the tax due on the rental, but do they have a UK tax allowance if not living here ?

bouicca21

Landlord might be liable for taxation in the UAE.

FBaby

I'm with MissSam on this one. There are spiteful landlords out there who get pleasure from treating tenants like second class citizen. Then there are landlords who do things wrong because they are not aware of the intricacies of what being landlord involves in the eye of the law.

I don't have any issues with tenants getting a sense of self satisfying pleasure from getting revenge on their LL when they fall under the first category.

I have little respect for tenants who thing that a LL going wrongly about things get sadistic pleasure from punishing them from their ignorance.

So far, this LL has just been an idiot, and so far, this has caused little issue to OP beyond a few exchange of emails. Does this really warrants trying to seek every ways he can be punished?

A quick 'you're wrong, if you don't believe me, seek professional advice and in the meantime, I'll stop responding' as it's been suggested is all that is required at this stage.

itchyfeet123

FBaby wrote: »

I have little respect for tenants who thing that a LL going wrongly about things get sadistic pleasure from punishing them from their ignorance.

So far, this LL has just been an idiot, and so far, this has caused little issue to OP beyond a few exchange of emails. Does this really warrants trying to seek every ways he can be punished?

A quick 'you're wrong, if you don't believe me, seek professional advice and in the meantime, I'll stop responding' as it's been suggested is all that is required at this stage.

How has the OP been seeking to punish the LL? The OP has stood up for his rights to live in the property until the end of the term, to have a local address for serving notice, and not face the possibility of a bill from HMRC in the near future. Just because the LL experiences consequences from the OP standing up for these rights doesn't mean it's malicious or vindictive or an attempt to punish the LL.

FBaby

If he really cared about doing things right by law, he would have been asking for the address much sooner, same with inquiring about the issue of tax. He didn't though. When the LL was acting like the LL he wanted him to be, it didn't matter. Now that the landlord is acting like an idiot, so goes all the talk about righteousness.

I wonder if it was OP who'd asked to leave sooner and LL had agreed, would he have bothered pointing the issue of the address and tax.... I bet not.

The LL deserved to be told right about what he thinks is an enforceable term of the ast, but to go beyond this IS being vindictive.

iammumtoone

FBaby wrote: »

If he really cared about doing things right by law, he would have been asking for the address much sooner, same with inquiring about the issue of tax. He didn't though. When the LL was acting like the LL he wanted him to be, it didn't matter. Now that the landlord is acting like an idiot, so goes all the talk about righteousness.

I wonder if it was OP who'd asked to leave sooner and LL had agreed, would he have bothered pointing the issue of the address and tax.... I bet not.

The LL deserved to be told right about what he thinks is an enforceable term of the ast, but to go beyond this IS being vindictive.

Because the OP did not know about these things until he needed to check out his rights regarding the LL trying to illegally evict him. If LL had left it until end of fixed term as he should, OP would still not know about these issues so wouldn't have raised them.

OP being the customer is not expected to know hows thing should operate (customers only tend to investigate these things when there is a problem) It is the job of the supplier/service provider (ie the LL) to make sure everything is done correct and follow the law.

Now the OP has found out (due to the LL actions in the first place) he can't be expected to ignore them.

itchyfeet123

FBaby wrote: »

If he really cared about doing things right by law, he would have been asking for the address much sooner, same with inquiring about the issue of tax. He didn't though. When the LL was acting like the LL he wanted him to be, it didn't matter. Now that the landlord is acting like an idiot, so goes all the talk about righteousness.

Unless the OP has been deceptive on this thread, he didn't know about this stuff until it came up here. And going by other people's replies on this thread, it isn't unusual for a tenant not to know about the tax issue.

Marvel1

FBaby wrote: »

If he really cared about doing things right by law, he would have been asking for the address much sooner, same with inquiring about the issue of tax. He didn't though.

As a tenant (consumer) you wouldn't know until it was mentioned, I didn't know myself, however the landlord should know before letting!

The poor tenant even came here asking for help as he thought he had to be out when demanded by the landlord even though fixed until August.

Cakeguts

FBaby wrote: »

I'm with MissSam on this one. There are spiteful landlords out there who get pleasure from treating tenants like second class citizen. Then there are landlords who do things wrong because they are not aware of the intricacies of what being landlord involves in the eye of the law.

I don't have any issues with tenants getting a sense of self satisfying pleasure from getting revenge on their LL when they fall under the first category.

I have little respect for tenants who thing that a LL going wrongly about things get sadistic pleasure from punishing them from their ignorance.

So far, this LL has just been an idiot, and so far, this has caused little issue to OP beyond a few exchange of emails. Does this really warrants trying to seek every ways he can be punished?

A quick 'you're wrong, if you don't believe me, seek professional advice and in the meantime, I'll stop responding' as it's been suggested is all that is required at this stage.

Quite possibly but the LL has been an idiot in an extremely unpleasant way. He didn't ask he demanded that the tenant move out of the tenant's home so that he could have it back. If you want someone to do you a favour you do not treat them like that and you do not use emotional blackmail.

Person_one

iammumtoone wrote: »

The only bit that was perhaps a bit off was the with holding of rent but they also clearly reassured them they would get it as soon as the information needed is supplied. The OP is within their rights to do this unlike the LL who has no right just to demand the house back whenever they like.

On that point, am I right in thinking that if no UK address is provided that rent is actually 'not due' rather than rent can be withheld? If that's the case, the OP is actually being very very generous!