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Paying for overnight guests in rented flat?!

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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    mrginge wrote: »
    Come on pixie you know better than that.
    *why* is it unenforceable?
    It can't be unenforceable just because a different, unrelated term has been deemed unenforceable in the past

    It isn't a term that *bans* overnight guests, nor does it force the tenants to have a particular type of overnight guest.
    It's a charge, to be levied *if* the tenant wants a guest.

    I mean I know there's all the point about quiet enjoyment, exclusive use etc, but exclusive use does not mean you can do whatever you want. For example it doesn't mean you can exclusively move a wall or exclusively brick up the windows.
    I don't see how this term prevents the tenant from exclusive use, isn't it the same as one which said 'if you want the landlord to cut the grass you have to pay £5'?

    I haven't trawled through the unfair contract terms docs so I'm not saying that is is or isn't fair, just that it may not be quite that straightforward.



    Like I say the LL would in essence need to stalk the tenant to know if the visitor stayed overnight
  • always_sunny
    always_sunny Posts: 8,314 Forumite
    Crashy Time has been advocating the imminent crash for the past zonkies, any day now, any day!

    It's a tough cookie, personally when I moved to London I had a look at different areas and decided to move where it was convenient for commuting and within my budget; I did set a budget not because of money constraints but because it's easy to go overboard.

    I was happy to settle in the SE, because my life is quiet, I don't really care for late night tube rides, etc
    If the AST has a break clause (or you can insist to have one) after 6 months you can pack and go, it's a studio, whether furnished or not, it'll be an easy move unless you're a hoarder!

    If you're stretched with money with this flat already, maybe this peculiar arrangement is a 'warning sign' from your lucky stars telling you maybe it's best if you sit tight another month, evaluate your priorities and then move. Instead of sharing a room divided by a thin wall, you could share a flat and have your own room for much less than this rent.

    London is a tough city unless you have a good wage and it's best if you save a little for rainy days rather than get into debt for just living in the city.
    EU expat working in London
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    Guest101 wrote: »
    Like I say the LL would in essence need to stalk the tenant to know if the visitor stayed overnight

    Yes I read that. And I ignored it as it was one of the most ridiculous comments ever made by anyone ever.

    I'll ignore it again out of respect for you.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    How has overnight been defined?

    dusk to dawn or some specific times?
  • Layla85
    Layla85 Posts: 22 Forumite
    Thank you, that's good advice. It's actually a six-month contract so maybe best to give it a go and see. If anything it might be a valuable life lesson if it all goes to sh*t!
  • Layla85
    Layla85 Posts: 22 Forumite
    getmore4less: Good point! I think they mean boyfriends/girlfriends or people from overseas/out of the city. essentially, anyone who could take the mickey by staying longer than their welcome, using more water etc
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    mrginge wrote: »
    Yes I read that. And I ignored it as it was one of the most ridiculous comments ever made by anyone ever.

    I'll ignore it again out of respect for you.



    Aside from being unnecessarily rude, how would the LL like to enforce this clause?


    Unannounced inspections?


    Waiting outside the front door?


    Im serious
  • always_sunny
    always_sunny Posts: 8,314 Forumite
    mrginge wrote: »
    Yes I read that. And I ignored it as it was one of the most ridiculous comments ever made by anyone ever.

    I'll ignore it again out of respect for you.

    Maybe the OP can produce sounds to pretend there's a 2nd person and drive the LL completely mad when he comes knocking on the door :rotfl:
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    EU expat working in London
  • Layla85
    Layla85 Posts: 22 Forumite
    Hahahaha. That's hilarious
  • Money_maker
    Money_maker Posts: 5,471 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    OP says she has to pass LL's door in the corridor to reach hers. What's the betting he has hidden CCTV somewhere outside his door to keep tabs?
    Please do not quote spam as this enables it to 'live on' once the spam post is removed. ;)

    If you quote me, don't forget the capital 'M'

    Declutterers of the world - unite! :rotfl::rotfl:
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