Small kitchen - losing my mind

ST1991

PasturesNew wrote: »

What are the actual problems?

Not enough worktop?
Not enough cupboards?
Too many gadgets, not enough sockets/room?

Wide/double cupboards, and/or big/wide/deep pan drawers can sort out a lot of storage problems.

The problem at the moment is that we cannot fit all appliances in that room. In order to have a tall fridge/freezer in there we would lose a lot of cupboard space. If we have undercounter ones we would also lose cupboards.
The boiler is wall mounted but sits approx 2 inches above the worktop so that is worktop we cannot use.

We need to fit the following:
Sink
Washing machine
Oven and hob
fridge freezer

and still have worktop/cabinet space.

I have seen it done in tiny pokey flats but it just isn't working here from what i can see

ST1991

Jackieboy wrote: »

The soil stack doesn't have to be on the outside of the house, they can be internal.

Alternately you could extend the rear living room so it's as good/big a room as the front room with the advantage of access to the garden.

The soil stack serves next door as well though, so i'm not sure how i fancy having that, and the shallow drain it goes into, in my kitchen...

The back room is just under 4x3.6m so would be sufficient space already to have the kitchen/diner - it's just an issue with no plumbing or drainage at the back of the house.

Cisco001

I just assume the room next to the kitchen is the dinning room?

I would put the sink in front of windows, then washing machine/ washer dryer right next to it.

Hob next to boiler facing the wall to the far right.

Fridge need to be in dinning room, and probably need to get to get a cupboards in the dinning room for extra storage.

Where about is the radiator in the kitchen?
Can you just ask a plumber to move it?

Edit: I just notice you get the front door directly to kitchen??
Could you move the front door directly to dinning room, then you will have room to put your fridge in kitchen?

Jackieboy

ST1991 wrote: »

The soil stack serves next door as well though, so i'm not sure how i fancy having that, and the shallow drain it goes into, in my kitchen...

The back room is just under 4x3.6m so would be sufficient space already to have the kitchen/diner - it's just an issue with no plumbing or drainage at the back of the house.

Sorry, I meant to extend your back room so that it became a lovely living room so you could put the kitchen in the front room.

(My soil stack is inside - in what would've been my own difficult to fit kitchen if I hadn't moved it- but the drain isn't.)

fairy_lights

I'd get a large dresser to go in the dining room that all your crockery and cutlery and general kitchen gadgets can go in, to free up some of the kitchen storage space.
The fridge/freezer could also go in the dining room and then you would have plenty of space in the kitchen for the oven, worktop over a washing machine, sink and a few cupboards for food items.

Doozergirl

Can you mark your soil stack on the plan?

Getting plumbing anywhere isn't a problem. Drainage is more difficult. It doesn't look like your floor plan is going to allow it. Need to see exactly where it is though.

ST1991

Doozergirl wrote: »

Can you mark your soil stack on the plan?

Getting plumbing anywhere isn't a problem. Drainage is more difficult. It doesn't look like your floor plan is going to allow it. Need to see exactly where it is though.

The soil pipe is shown here:
http://i63.tinypic.com/2njwmck.png

Next door (on the side of the soil pipe) have the same extension as ours, but have later on extended it across the width of theirs. We had the idea to do ours the same to keep the houses looking similar. Plus they are super lovely and invite us over for a cuppa regularly and said we can go up to their wall (it's on the boundary, on the soil pipe side).

We could potentially go up to the soil pipe instead of right across... but it would look pretty odd from the outside.

Doozergirl

You need to decide what it is you want to do in future, if anything, to plan this smaller venture.

You won't get drainage from the back around your chimney breast in any successful fashion, unless you're prepared to lost the chimney breast. In that case you'd box the plumbing behind a false wall. I wouldn't lose a fireplace for love nor money.

What's that in the bottom left making the back room smaller? Where are the stairs?

EconomicsGirl

Some people do have washing machines in other places to the kitchen like a laundry room or in a large bathroom.

Fridge freezer, cooker, sink etc has to really go in so I would put those on a plan and we if you have enough space to make it work.

You could possibly store plates etc in the dining room.

Just have a think about how you use things.

I wouldn't embark on any major expenditure unless i viable in the longer term. Sometimes it's best to wait a bit be for starting projects and test how you live in the house.

EconomicsGirl

Some people also have kitchens at the front of the house.

It is slightly strange but can work if you have kids and can see them in the garden from your living room - I have a friend with this and they have French doors to the garden.