Should I join the VW Class action - Slater & Gordon - January 2017

BeenThroughItAll

jimjames wrote: »

To be honest I don't see any reason why that choice wasn't still valid. I own a Passat and I don't think the class action is a good idea. These actions could bankrupt VW, that will hardly be a good way for residual values and long term maintenance - ask Saab owners about parts availability.

...and they'll tell you it's fine, since the Saab parts operation wasn't involved in the bankruptcy, and the aftermarket has most parts covered in any case...

hanfrangipane

jimjames wrote: »

To be honest I don't see any reason why that choice wasn't still valid. I own a Passat and I don't think the class action is a good idea. These actions could bankrupt VW, that will hardly be a good way for residual values and long term maintenance - ask Saab owners about parts availability.

That's fair enough, if you're happy with that. I do see your point but personally I'm already seeing issues in selling the car and I don't want a fix to impact performance if I do end up keeping it. Either way, it feels like some element of devaluation has taken place. At the moment I'm just planning to wait and see what happens in the coming months while I mull over my options

hanfrangipane

jimjames wrote: »

I think the numbers who looked at NO2 emissions as part of the buying process can probably be counted on the fingers of one hand. I can't even see any site that provides the information for UK vehicles so if you have those details maybe you could enlighten us?

I agree you're probably right there, most people probably didn't know the figure. I'm unsure where my Dad got the information from, but he worked with a fair few manufacturers regarding their engine specs so I imagine it was probably something that was more readily available on the technical side of things. Unfortunately he passed away last year so I can't ask him, but he was still around when the news broke and I got my initial letter and recall him commenting that he'd be interested to see what difference it made to the numbers once I'd had it fixed.

spadoosh

hanfrangipane wrote: »

There isn't mutual exclusivity between wanting to purchase something that is of benefit to yourself whilst also being considerate towards the environment. Yes, I wanted a car that was good on fuel consumption and the other things you mention, but environmental impact was also a big factor, as it is with many choices I make in my day to day life.


Clearly compensation would be for my own benefit but that doesn't detract from why I made my purchasing decisions in the first place.

Its not at all.

The motor industry is the single biggest most wasteful industry there is. We live in a country where cars 'last' 2 years. Production parts are shipped from all over the world using the latest stock handling systems so as to always have something available this uses copious amount of energy. Cars are then constructed using copious amounts of energy, to then use copious amounts of energy getting about to then need copious more amounts of energy to recycle what bits you can.

The good thing is it keeps people in jobs building cars to be replaced every few years.

If you use a car you cant claim to have any (beneficial) consideration for the environment. If you do try, its because you dont understand the full implications.

gilbert_and_sullivan

oldhand wrote: »

Runs to find 2017 edition of tree huggers monthly to check lowest emissions engine slightly above pedal power,dons save our planet gloves and prepares to answer............:cool::cool:

Next time could you give a warning before making us old uns double up
...nips off to look up Tenamen

Norman_Castle

Why should you sue VW?

Although we think the compensation per vehicle will be modest, we’re keen to highlight not only the fraud you’ve suffered, but also the damage to the environment your vehicles have unlawfully caused. We’re also determined to hold accountable a multinational corporate giant who has seen fit to lie and cheat its way to greater profitability at your expense.


Why should owners benefit from compensation for environmental damage. I live on a busy road in a city. This is likely to have damaged my health more than the average VW owner. Where's my compensation?

Nasqueron

Nobody bought the VW for the NO2 emissions or even knew about them and anyone who now claims they did and want compo for "environmental" reasons is a hypocrite and telling fibs. If you cared about the environment that much you'd buy a hybrid or electric car or a bicycle

Mercdriver

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

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...and they'll tell you it's fine, since the Saab parts operation wasn't involved in the bankruptcy, and the aftermarket has most parts covered in any case...

What about reduced choice and competition in the market for cars, and the effect an obsolete brand has on the value of the car? Anyone want to sell a Rover 220?

BeenThroughItAll

Mercdriver wrote: »

What about reduced choice and competition in the market for cars, and the effect an obsolete brand has on the value of the car? Anyone want to sell a Rover 220?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. The issue I was addressing, emboldened, was Saab parts availability, and my point is that there is no problem with parts availability.

If you have a Rover 220 (particularly a coupe turbo), hang onto it, since the value is increasing. Or sell it to me now.

Johnmcl7

hanfrangipane wrote: »

It wasn't brand new, it was used. I'm not saying I'm saving the planet but I tried to make a choice that was better than some of the others available to me. I needed a reliable car for work and was doing lots of motorway miles. My choice at the time was, on balance, the best for me and I thought it was better than others that I could have made from an environmental perspective

The good news is then the VW cars are generally lower in Nox emissions in real world tests than many others:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/apr/21/all-top-selling-cars-break-emissions-limits-in-real-world-tests

Other manufacturers may not have fitted cheating software but they're bending the rules on lab testing so ridiculously far that many other cars are in reality significantly worse than VW cars.

It is great to see so many people are so concerned about the environmental impact of their cars, since any new car has a massive environmental impact you're all more than welcome to the cycling forum for advice on bikes.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: ...sorry couldn't help myself although would still recommend it, DPFs are often a pain in the neck but I'm grateful to my problematic one for converting me to cycling, better for me, better for the car, better for my wallet and better for the environment.

John