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UKPC issued ticket for own residential space

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  • Cole.b88
    Cole.b88 Posts: 6 Forumite
    edited 5 January 2017 at 2:00PM
    pappa_golf wrote: »
    is there a line that states
    I must display a permit or I will be invoiced £100?


    "1. Quiet Enjoyment
    1.1.To allow the Tenant to quietly hold and enjoy the Premises during the Tenancy without any unlawful
    interruption by the Landlord or any person rightfully claiming under, through or in trust for the Landlord."


    I would say they have failed to comply with the above

    No, there is nothing that states this.

    The funny thing is, is that when moving in to the property we was told we needed to purchase a permit for the space. Which was £5 from UKPC
  • pappa_golf
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    edited 5 January 2017 at 2:18PM
    purchase , but were you specifically told (by whom) that the permit had to be displayed .

    you need to contact the management Co , etc and stste that they have breached

    "1. Quiet Enjoyment
    1.1.To allow the Tenant to quietly hold and enjoy the Premises during the Tenancy without any unlawful
    interruption by the Landlord or any person rightfully claiming under, through or in trust for the Landlord."

    by allowing their agent (ukpc) to attach items to your vehicle

    the parking space came with your property , do UKPC now have the right to charge you £5 "ground rent" on it?
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  • pappa_golf wrote: »
    purchase , but were you specifically told (by whom) that the permit had to be displayed .

    you need to contact the management Co , etc and stste that they have breached

    "1. Quiet Enjoyment
    1.1.To allow the Tenant to quietly hold and enjoy the Premises during the Tenancy without any unlawful
    interruption by the Landlord or any person rightfully claiming under, through or in trust for the Landlord."

    by allowing their agent (ukpc) to attach items to your vehicle

    the parking space came with your property , do UKPC now have the right to charge you £5 "ground rent" on it?

    We was told, by the estate agent, when we were moving into the property, that we needed to purchase a permit. Which my girlfriend then did, being none the wiser to UKPC and assuming it would be a council like permit.

    It was only after receiving this PCN that I've looked into UKPC and private parking companies.

    I will be sending a reply to UKPC to inform them that I will be seeking legal advise from now on and will be in contact shortly
  • Half_way
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    The words purchase a permit rings alarm bells, was anything agreed to with this purchase?
    Why would anyone get a permit that permits them to do something that they already have the rights to do.
    When this permit was purchased was anything agreed to along with the sale?
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  • Coupon-mad
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    Yes, I would want to see what paperwork or email accompanied the permit when it was purchased.
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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    I own a property in a HA block which the HA have contracted out to UKPC. I asked the HA for a permit to park in visitors/communal areas, (I have a parking space elsewhere in the complex), for which they wanted £10, issued by UKPC, I declined.

    If I am ticketed by UKPC while I am delivering stuff to my flat, I shall just have to cause them as much trouble as I can.
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  • The_Deep wrote: »
    I own a property in a HA block which the HA have contracted out to UKPC. I asked the HA for a permit to park in visitors/communal areas, (I have a parking space elsewhere in the complex), for which they wanted £10, issued by UKPC, I declined.

    If I am ticketed by UKPC while I am delivering stuff to my flat, I shall just have to cause them as much trouble as I can.

    So even though your HA and the management company of my residents car park have contracted it out to UKPC. I shouldn't have to pay a fee to park in the said parking bay?
  • Fruitcake
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    edited 5 January 2017 at 4:34PM
    Cole.b88 wrote: »
    We was told, by the estate agent, when we were moving into the property, that we needed to purchase a permit. Which my girlfriend then did, being none the wiser to UKPC and assuming it would be a council like permit.

    It was only after receiving this PCN that I've looked into UKPC and private parking companies.

    I will be sending a reply to UKPC to inform them that I will be seeking legal advise from now on and will be in contact shortly

    I would suggest all the legal advice you need is already available here.

    There is nothing in your lease/tenancy agreement that says you need a permit to park, or indeed need to purchase one. You were conned. You have the right to peaceful enjoyment and there is no requirement to display a permit. UKPC do not have the lawful right to issue parking tickets because they cannot add onto your original contract with the landowner.

    Did you get a PoPLA code when the scammers rejected your initial appeal? If so, use it and refer them to the court cases where judges have already said that lease trumps parking scammers made up terms and signs.

    If you didn't get a PoPLA code, complain to the BPA.

    Complain to the estate agents that you were conned and you want the £5 back. Explain why and if it goes to court you will be calling them as a material witness in this con.
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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Cole.b88 wrote: »
    So even though your HA and the management company of my residents car park have contracted it out to UKPC. I shouldn't have to pay a fee to park in the said parking bay?
    Nevertheless you did (according to your #14) - which is why you are being asked for the wording that accompanied the permit.


    (Take care about writing to UKPC - don't divulge anything about the incident to your disadvantage!)
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 5 January 2017 at 5:02PM
    So even though your HA and the management company of my residents car park have contracted it out to UKPC. I shouldn't have to pay a fee to park in the said parking bay?

    Of course not, read the links in my post number 4 above.


    You do not have to pay for a permit, you do not have to display a permit. If UKPC have obtained your details from the DVLA they have done so unlawfully. People have sued them for this, one person was awarded £750.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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