UKPC issued ticket for own residential space

Cole.b88

Hi,
I had been issued a PCN on my windscreen of my company vehicle as the permit for my resident bay had fallen from windscreen into the footwell of the passenger seat.

I wrote a letter to UKPC pointing out this fact and to remove the ticket from the system. To which they replied asking for proof of the permit. I replied with a picture of the permit. I have now just received a letter from UKPC, denying the appeal and saying "our Appeals Manager had personally reviewed your case and carefully considered the various points you raised. Their view, however, is that the Parking Charge has been correctly issued so it will not be waived"

The letter then goes on to say that if payment is received within 35 days of the letter, they will accept a payment of just £15.

I'm not sure what to do now, should I just pay the £15 and be done? Or contest some more?

Some help would be very much appreciated

Quentin

It really is your call - how much do you value your time to contest this compared with £15 is the decision only you can take.

pappa_golf

in the case where a ticket is reduced to £15 , its because UKPC , know they have made a "boo boo" , perhaps they are not allowed to work that land?

find the reason for the mistake , act on it , they may well have applied for your info illigally

when you got your permit , was it entered on a "white list" , ie: vehicles that were allowed?

The_Deep

They more are probably breaching your leasehold rights to "quiet enjoyment " to your property, a possible offence under the Landlord and Tenants Acts which, if found guilty would cost them considerably more than £15.

Whether 15p or £15, you should fight this. Courts are increasingly finding against PPCs in these cases, and you could end up with them paying you. Some reading

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKPC-liable-for-trespass-**SUCCESS**

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/link-parking-and-overstone-court.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/residential-parking.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/ukpc-hit-for-352-for-discontinuing.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/link-parking-lose-in-wrexham-flat-owner_2.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/tenancy-agreement-not-overruled-by.html

Fruitcake

If you pay you will leave yourselves and other residents open to more abuse. It is quite possible that someone bounced on the car and helped the permit to fall off the dash into the footwell. Can you think of anyone who might benefit from doing that?

What does your lease/tenancy agreement say about parking? If permits are not mentioned then there is no requirement to display one, and UKPC scammers Inc have no right to issue tickets.

What did the landowner say when you complained?

A well constructed MSE parking forum assisted appeal will see this off at PoPLA, especially if parking or parking permits are not mentioned in your lease/tenancy agreement. As you can see from the Deep's post above, several judges have now said that a third party cannot add on additional terms and conditions to an existing contract such as a tenancy agreement.

Quentin

The_Deep wrote: »

Whether 15p or £15, you should fight this. Courts are increasingly finding against PPCs in these cases.......

If the OP decides to fight this, and it ends up in court, then the sum being claimed by UKPC wil be neither 15p nor £15!!

Castle

Quentin wrote: »

If the OP decides to fight this, and it ends up in court, then the sum being claimed by UKPC wil be neither 15p nor £15!!

As will the counterclaim!

Cole.b88

Thanks everyone for your quick responses.

This is what is stated in my rental agreement

"15. Cars and Parking
15.1. To park a private vehicle only at the Premises.
15.2. To park in the car parking space, garage or driveway allocated to the Premises, if applicable.
15.3. To keep any garage, driveway, or parking space free of oil and to pay for the removal and cleaning of
any spillage caused by a vehicle of the Tenant, his family, contractors or visitors.
15.4. To remove all vehicles belonging to the Tenant, his family or visitors at the end of the Tenancy. 15.5. Not to park any vehicle at the Premises that is not in road worthy condition and fully taxed."

Very inexperienced with all of this. What should my next steps be?

Quentin

If you have decided against paying the £15, then check out the advice in the newbies FAQ thread on appealing to POPLA.


That is your next step as well as trying to get the landowner/agent to cancel the charge

Cole.b88

Also I have "quiet enjoyment" in my rental agreement which states

"1. Quiet Enjoyment
1.1.To allow the Tenant to quietly hold and enjoy the Premises during the Tenancy without any unlawful
interruption by the Landlord or any person rightfully claiming under, through or in trust for the Landlord."

pappa_golf

is there a line that states
I must display a permit or I will be invoiced £100?


"1. Quiet Enjoyment
1.1.To allow the Tenant to quietly hold and enjoy the Premises during the Tenancy without any unlawful
interruption by the Landlord or any person rightfully claiming under, through or in trust for the Landlord."

I would say they have failed to comply with the above