Private parking ticket UKCPS - HELP!

Deccco

Can anyone offer any advice on a situation I am in. On September 25th 2016, I was parked in a private car park for less than a minute whilst I went to see if Sainsbury's was open, in which it was shut so I returned to my car straight away. The ticket states that I was parked for 15 minutes which is completely wrong. I did not see the ticket until I got home. Reading advice on this forum, I didn't appeal the ticket and now have a letter stating that I need to pay £100 or further action will be taken. The ticket was from UKCPS. I have further read that UKCPS were banned from the DVLA from October-December 2016, however I received my letter on 29th December. Moreover, it has been well over 56 days since I received the ticket. Do I appeal, just ignore it completely or pay? Any advice would be much appreciated!

Redx

if you have a letter then they have the RK address and name , so the DVLA ban is not relevant

as you have ignored it so far , you are in IGNORE MODE for 6 years unless they try a court case, in which case come back for help

see the NEWBIES sticky thread for advice including ignoring the debt collector stage

pappa_golf

the ticket was a ANPR type ticket therefore it would have to be issued within 14 days

<cynic mode on>

if it was by ANPE , ask them to produce timed photo stills taken from the ANPR machine

<cynic mode off>


however on re reading the post

I did not see the ticket until I got home.

infers that this was NOT an ANPR ticket , and as such the company could not ask for info until day 28 , at which point they were either banned by the DVLA or suspended by the recognised ATA that they are a member of

it is my understanding that they have exceeded the 56 days to get your date , thus making the ticket non compliant with regard to the POFa2012

one might also add that during the window to get the data , they were banned from access to the DVLA database

they are realy pushing their luck , and I think youneed clarification from the DVLA on the date they applied for date , before pushing this further

please print this out , fill in the blanks and post , await answer and then return

Example Letter

[Your Address]

DVLA Vehicle Record Enquiries section

Longview Road

Morriston

Swansea

SA99 1AJ

Dear Sirs

Re: VRM AB12 XYZ

As the Registered Keeper of the above VRM could you advise who has accessed my personal details with regards to this marque, how often and when did the DVLA send the keeper details out. Please advise the information with regards to events between xx/xx/xx/ and xx/xx/xx.

In each case, please give the name of the company or authority, and the 'date of event' given to you by that party.


I understand there is no charge for this information and look forward to your speedy reply.

Yours faithfully

Mr Registered Keeper


in your case I would await an answer from the above , then appeal to the IPC , clearly stating that as they have failed to conform with the POFa2012 , they can only chase the driver and you do not wish to name them

when hey refuse , this is fantastic if it goes to court

fisherjim

I don't know where you read the advice on this forum to ignore, that has not been the case since 2012, unless you are in Scotland or NI?

Was the car park a Sainsbury exclusive car park? If so have you complained to them?

Deccco

Thank you for the quick and useful reply - much appreciated. So am I right in thinking because they have exceeded the 56 days to write to me, I don't have to pay? I will still write the letter.

pappa_golf

Deccco wrote: »

Thank you for the quick and useful reply - much appreciated. So am I right in thinking because they have exceeded the 56 days to write to me, I don't have to pay? I will still write the letter.

not as simple as that , by proving that they have acted illigally or failed to meet POFa2012 , you can tell them to go after the driver , not the owner/keeper

I suspect that they were actually banned by the BPA several (or more) days before it was announced on the IPC website , and they were having a feeding frenzy the days before the ban , they have , by sending a letter in december exceeded the time span to get data and to hold you responsable

please post the letter above ASAP , and you can ridicule the IPC if this gets to court

Fruitcake

As above, the advice to ignore would have been found on this forum since 2012.

I read the OP as getting a windscreen ticket in September then getting the NTK on the 29th of December.

The OP should therefore not be in ignore mode but should send the IPC template letter from the NEWBIES thread.

I think the OP should then follow PG's advice. Get the info from the DVLA and then appeal to the IPC.

Fruitcake

pappa_golf wrote: »

not as simple as that , by proving that they have acted illigally or failed to meet POFa2012 , you can tell them to go after the driver , not the owner/keeper

I suspect that they were actually banned by the BPA several (or more) days before it was announced on the IPC website , and they were having a feeding frenzy the days before the ban , they have , by sending a letter in december exceeded the time span to get data and to hold you responsable

please post the letter above ASAP , and you can ridicule the IPC if this gets to court

IPC surely?

Redx

agreed , but either way its an invoice they may try to enforce within 6 years , whereas I think the OP is looking for a magic wand solution to make it "go away" , which isnt going to happen

they should do both tasks, send the IPC template as KEEPER , not naming or inferring who was driving

plus send the PG letter to the dvla as well

then its sit back for 6 years unless UKCPS try an MCOL from Northampton

Coupon-mad

Deccco wrote: »

Thank you for the quick and useful reply - much appreciated. So am I right in thinking because they have exceeded the 56 days to write to me, I don't have to pay? I will still write the letter.

More importantly, I think they have got your data retrospectively when they were not entitled to do so, like here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/71847575#Comment_71847575

Personally I would add to that DVLA letter:





Dear Sirs

Re: VRN: AB12 XYZ

As I am the Registered Keeper of the above VRN, could you advise me who has accessed my personal details, how often and when did the DVLA send the keeper details out. Please advise the information with regards to events between 01/09/2016 and 01/01/2017.

In each case, please give the name of the company or authority, and the 'date of event' given to you by that party.

Further, since I have reason to believe UKCPS have retrospectively obtained my data, please furnish me with the current DVLA rules regarding reinstating a parking company after a KADOE access to DVLA data ban and please confirm the dates between which UKCPS were not entitled to obtain data.

I understand there is no charge for this information and look forward to your speedy reply.

Yours faithfully

Mr Registered Keeper

Fruitcake

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Yours faithfully

Mr Registered Keeper

Or Mrs, Ms, Miss, Master, or any other preferred title, or none.