Pcn

Coupon-mad

OK so include that if you wish but only by adding a line to the template appeal (NEWBIES THREAD) and NOT saying who was driving your car. Not 'I was stuck because I did this...that'.

You could however add to the template 'For your information, the driver (who will not be named) was delayed due to ...blah blah...who have provided their crime number as proof that this incident occurred.'

But be careful not to accidentally even imply who parked the car.

Baggiestan

Hi
Don't know if i should start a new thread but my wife has now received a PCN from parking eye for using a town centre car park 3 days before xmas,not disbuting she used car park she was on there for 16 mins but at no stage did she park her car or get out of her car just kept going round looking for spaces but because we couldn't park i got out picked something up from a shop and then left the car park,is it worth appealing this or not.
regards

Coupon-mad

Baggiestan wrote: »

Hi
Don't know if i should start a new thread but my wife has now received a PCN from parking eye for using a town centre car park 3 days before xmas,not disbuting she used car park she was on there for 16 mins but at no stage did she park her car or get out of her car just kept going round looking for spaces but because we couldn't park i got out picked something up from a shop and then left the car park,is it worth appealing this or not.
regards

Yes it is certainly appealable*, and you can send the same template appeal online to PE, in the name of that car's keeper (not driver). You could add that this was just 3 days before Christmas and the driver could not find a space so did not in fact park at all.

Add that:

Bearing in mind the very busy week it occurred, it is patently obvious that a period of just 16 minutes including driving round trying but failing to find a space, and including queuing to leave out onto the road, is within the flexible 'grace periods and observations periods' defined by Kelvin Reynolds of the BPA. The time of year and facts must be taken into account and Mr Reynolds promised that BPA member firms operate under the 'good practice' of allowing en minutes or more 'observation period' on arrivel, plus a separate MINIMUM (not maximum) ten minutes as set under the BPA CoP, for the process of queuing to leave.

You probably only need to start a new thread at POPLA stage for that one.



*ask Ivorpecheque, who beat PE in court in the famous 'driving round for 31 minutes is not parking' case.

P.S. Is it me, or does anyone else smell a rat about the number of '16 min overstays' PE allege recently? Never 17 - 20 minutes, always (conveniently) 16 minutes and you can bet they've agreed a 15 minute non-enforcement period with the shops. So how come so many are 16 mins...one wonders...

Baggiestan

Result
The hotel has agreed to cancel the PCN issued by Civil Enforcement following the accident.Common sense at last.
Thank you to all for your help
Regards

Coupon-mad

Great - make sure you get that by email and from CEL (in case they forget and try a claim later). Not just over the phone from the Hotel.