M4 speed camera incident

GTE_Boy

Muscle750 wrote: »

If the worst comes to the worst which i doubt ask them to provide the calibration cert etc for the camera however i doubt if you will hear anything as long as what your saying is correct. I saw one go off on M4 in Wales nothing around me and i never got anything and i was going over the limit althou not by alot

But that would mean rejecting any speed awareness course or fixed penalty notice and taking it to court. You're not entitled to any evidence until you plead not guilty.

Aylesbury_Duck

Thanks everyone. I was definitely within the limit. I'm a pretty cautious driver with a clean licence so far, but like most people, I'm guilty of the occasional lapse of speed awareness or slight creep over the limit. This wasn't one of those occasions.

Mercdriver

Muscle750 wrote: »

If the worst comes to the worst which i doubt ask them to provide the calibration cert etc for the camera however i doubt if you will hear anything as long as what your saying is correct. I saw one go off on M4 in Wales nothing around me and i never got anything and i was going over the limit althou not by alot

Ask the people on pepipoo about the usefulness (or otherwise) of using the calibration certificate loophole attempt. It's an expensive game of chance. You have to beat the court's assertion that the equipment is accepted as correct.

Now had the OP dashcam footage that showed a different speed limit than what may show, that might be sufficient. Don't be giving people who read this thread the idea that they can make prosecutions go away by calling for the calibration certificate. It's an incorrect assumption based on myths.

spira9

I've had something similar happen to me. Sometimes other cars headlights can dazzle you. When there's a dip in the road the car's light's behind you will flash as they come up. And in the dark this effect is much brighter. So I think you were just dazzled by someone elses headlights.

Crabman

On the M42 there are CCTV cameras on the hard shoulder at regular intervals but crucially they have sight of the speed limit signs above the carriageway.

I have no idea how long these images are retained but it wouldn't be unreasonable to request the footage of your own vehicle passing under the sign in question.

It is doubtful that a dashcam could retain footage for long enough - I have a 32GB card in my dashcam and that allows me to record almost two days of driving whereas it takes up to 14 days for an NIP to be received.

agrinnall

Crabman wrote: »

It is doubtful that a dashcam could retain footage for long enough - I have a 32GB card in my dashcam and that allows me to record almost two days of driving whereas it takes up to 14 days for an NIP to be received.

Well surely in that case the sensible options are either to protect the relevant footage so it doesn't get deleted/overwritten or download it to your computer.

Aylesbury_Duck

spira9 wrote: »

I've had something similar happen to me. Sometimes other cars headlights can dazzle you. When there's a dip in the road the car's light's behind you will flash as they come up. And in the dark this effect is much brighter. So I think you were just dazzled by someone elses headlights.

Thanks. It was an unusual flash in that it was bright and broad, more like a lightning flash to the rear rather than the narrower flash you get in situations as you've described. The nearest car behind me was some way back so I'm pretty sure it wasn't that.

Crabman

agrinnall wrote: »

Well surely in that case the sensible options are either to protect the relevant footage so it doesn't get deleted/overwritten or download it to your computer.

My dashcam doesn't have WiFi but there are newer ones which do and thus facilitate the easy transfer of files - so your idea may well work.

Muscle750

Mercdriver wrote: »

Ask the people on pepipoo about the usefulness (or otherwise) of using the calibration certificate loophole attempt. It's an expensive game of chance. You have to beat the court's assertion that the equipment is accepted as correct.

Now had the OP dashcam footage that showed a different speed limit than what may show, that might be sufficient. Don't be giving people who read this thread the idea that they can make prosecutions go away by calling for the calibration certificate. It's an incorrect assumption based on myths.

Worked for my son

agrinnall

Crabman wrote: »

My dashcam doesn't have WiFi but there are newer ones which do and thus facilitate the easy transfer of files - so your idea may well work.

Mine doesn't have wifi, I just connect it to my computer with a USB cable. I would think that most dash cams allow that, but any that don't the card can be taken out and read to allow files to be transferred. If you can't get the files off them then there's little point in having one.