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In debt but still give to charity?
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chubsta
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You could almost draw an analogy here with the way the Government says our country is in terrible debt but we still give billions away on foreign aid, but please, no discussions of that here, i am just wondering how many people are in debt, be it big and unmanageable or small and manageable and yet who still give to charities rather then putting their own problems first.
Personally, my debts are ok - mortgage, loan for a car and home improvements - and certainly manageable, every now and then i will have a LBM and pay a little extra off the mortgage but generally i just bumble along. I am very careful about tracking my spending and have a monthly spreadsheet showing all bills etc which i then add to as i pay for shopping etc, and on this long list of Direct Debits and Standing Orders there are a number of payments i make to some charities.
Of course, I could always cancel them and use the money to pay off some of my debts, but i am very happy to keep helping them - they are small charities which are generally pretty much a bunch of volunteers looking after hedgehogs so i know the money is being used very wisely and visibly (and as I also help with such a charity I know how much hard work and money is involved!). As well as the monthly payments i also spend money on food and equipment donations for them via Amazon etc.
So, my question is, how many other people, despite being in some form of hardship themselves, continue to help charities - my impression of the British people is that we are actually a very caring bunch and often willing to put others first so at this time of year where 'giving' is very much the thing i would love to hear what others thoughts are on this? Of course, i wouldn't expect anyone who is drowning in debt to give anything away, but i bet there are a fair few people out there who do, and i would love to know the reasons why.
Personally, my debts are ok - mortgage, loan for a car and home improvements - and certainly manageable, every now and then i will have a LBM and pay a little extra off the mortgage but generally i just bumble along. I am very careful about tracking my spending and have a monthly spreadsheet showing all bills etc which i then add to as i pay for shopping etc, and on this long list of Direct Debits and Standing Orders there are a number of payments i make to some charities.
Of course, I could always cancel them and use the money to pay off some of my debts, but i am very happy to keep helping them - they are small charities which are generally pretty much a bunch of volunteers looking after hedgehogs so i know the money is being used very wisely and visibly (and as I also help with such a charity I know how much hard work and money is involved!). As well as the monthly payments i also spend money on food and equipment donations for them via Amazon etc.
So, my question is, how many other people, despite being in some form of hardship themselves, continue to help charities - my impression of the British people is that we are actually a very caring bunch and often willing to put others first so at this time of year where 'giving' is very much the thing i would love to hear what others thoughts are on this? Of course, i wouldn't expect anyone who is drowning in debt to give anything away, but i bet there are a fair few people out there who do, and i would love to know the reasons why.
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I play the Lotto, I guess that's a form of giving to charity !!I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter0
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I heard somewhere that giving to charity should hurt just a little bit and it's a sentiment I agree with, whether for you that means finding the cash for an extra item with your weekly shop for the food bank or a richer person writing a cheque for thousands.
While in debt we have a chippy tea each week (meaning we put over £60 a month over the counter at the chippy) and always other non essential spends too like this month socialising for big family birthdays and going to the hairdresser.
If we were to cut back harder it would not be on the small charity direct debit I have or the small things I did for the food bank, local appeals and international appeal donation I made this month, which to be fair were in total less than we spend on chips!
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Yes, we give to charity. Not on a regular basis, but always at Christmas (instead of sending Christmas cards) and throughout the year through sponsorships for fund raising by family and friends.DFW Nerd No. 1484 LBM 07/01/15 Debt was £95k :eek: Now debt free and happy :j0
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If you're in debt and still wanting to do a little for charity, you can always give up time rather than money.
However, to answer the main question, you can still give a little as and when you can afford it, however it's probably prudent to suspend the direct debits.0 -
I support various charities to be honest. One in the US saving horses bound for slaughter and a number in the U.K. - mainly food banks, homeless charities and the air ambulances - this is a choice absolutely but things that I feel are important to me to support ��DFW Nerd #025DFW no more! Officially debt free 2017 - now joining the MFW's!
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If you're in debt and still wanting to do a little for charity, you can always give up time rather than money.
However, to answer the main question, you can still give a little as and when you can afford it, however it's probably prudent to suspend the direct debits.
Im happy to pay the DDs - its not huge amounts and i can afford it as my debts aren't huge anyway, in fact i would rather cut down on my weekly 'allowance' (I only allow myself a certain amount each week for treats etc) rather than cut the charity money. I am no hero by any means, I guess you can look at it as a hobby of mine, certainly cheaper than golf and given the way charities can give updates via social media these days it is a way to feel involved.
Nice to see other people do the same though, 'grass-roots' charities such as i support can take so much time and money from the people who do it out of love that it would feel wrong not to try to help a little. Of course, the big 'charities' who employ loads of people on huge salaries can go xxxx themselves in my opinion...Mortgage free!
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Do you want a medal?
You chose to get into debt - a child of abuse, a person homeless through no fault of their own or child in a third world/war torn country has no choice in this matter.
No one is making you give monies to charity, I know what I do (privately)......0 -
I'm always proud as to how much the UK gives to charity.
Slightly off topic perhaps; however the UK economy thrives by exploiting many third world countries in terms of trade. The foreign aid budget is a drop in the ocean.Mortgage Start - August 2013 £145,000 ************ Balance at April 2017 - £59,000
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I don't give to any of the major charities anymore as they're all just a bunch of hypocrites. I often give clothes to the local Air Ambulance shop and I occasionally give to Alopecia UK (I suffer from alopecia and they're a surprisingly grass roots charity) and Fightback who do a great job. The other week I also collected some unwanted brand new toiletries and bought hats, gloves, warm socks, chocolates and mince pies for a local homeless charity to distribute to homeless people which they were grateful for.
The only debt I have though are two credit cards with £400 limit between them (and currently only £95 outstanding)When however I was in debt I was forever setting up direct debits to whichever charity did the begging spiel on me...*The RK and FF fan club* #Family*Don’t Be Bitter- Glitter!* #LotsOfLove ‘Darling you’re my blood, you have my heartbeat’ Dad 20.02.200
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