In debt but still give to charity?

Indout96

I have no dept and do not give to charity (except poppy and poppy wristbands)
My wife once had a argument a few years back with a pushy PHAB collector in Morrisons about where the money went as neither she or anyone she has ever worked with had never seen a penny get through to the disabled (she had been working with badly disabled - mental & physically for over 30 years)

We used to have a sweet box (well 2 actually) at work both run by charities - every month they used to say that the collection box did not have the required amount of money and the firm made up the shortfall. Last year our reception decided to take this over and run it themselves. Prices are slightly cheaper than they were and it now makes a substantial profit that is given to charity. - weird how its never under funded when you take the charity collector (and their commission) out of the equation.

barbarawright

I assume all those who say there should be a need for charity support higher taxes and vote accordingly

DrWatson1

sourcrates wrote: »

What exactly do these CEO`s do for there money, on a day to day basis ? anyone ??

They say big salaries attract the "right kind of people" hmmm right for what though?

This. The brightest and most dedicated members of our society, such as doctors, scientists, teachers and nurses manage to do an outstanding job for a relatively modest wage.

What are the unique skills that your average CEO brings to the table? the ability to network and brown-nose their way to a top job? excessive greed?? I think you could parachute anyone of above-average intelligence into a CEO role and it would be very difficult to notice any difference in the performance of the company.

theoretica

sourcrates wrote: »

These charities may of been set up with the very best of intentions, but have become embroiled in the consumerism of the first world, if a charity really wanted to be ethical, non of its employees should be paid more than a living wage in my opinion.

That seems a bit extreme and would give most organisations great problems having any sort of continuity of good specialist staff, in management or other roles. For instance, should specialist nurses have to take a pay cut to work for Macmillan?

Tigsteroonie

The best paid job I ever had was for a national charity, and it wasn't particularly skilled.

Since then I only tend to give to local charities where I can see exactly how the money is both raised and spent.

sourcrates

theoretica wrote: »

That seems a bit extreme and would give most organisations great problems having any sort of continuity of good specialist staff, in management or other roles. For instance, should specialist nurses have to take a pay cut to work for Macmillan?

Well no of course not, I didn't mean across the board.

But I do believe the top people in business are paid far too much, and not just in business either.

There are footballers earning a million a month, yet we have people living rough on our streets.

Society is judged by how it treats itself, this brings us back to charities, who are supposed to elevate this problem, but have big fat cat CEO's to pay............ and so around it goes again !!

Missus_Hyde

iolanthe07 wrote: »

I was shocked when I learned about the huge salaries (in some cases more than that of the Prime Minister) paid to some large charity CEO's. I now only give to small local charities run by volunteers and Battersea Dogs' Home.

Our first dog was a rescue from Battersea Dogs Home, and until last year my opinion of them as a charity was quite high. However, after [url= https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/69721791#Comment_69721791[/url] at a local garden centre to try and make us sign up for regular payments by direct debit and as they were not willing to just accept a one off payment, I'm less than impressed by them and would not donate anything to them.

No one needs to be paid £140k a year, especially by a charity organisation.
If it were me getting that salary from a charity, i doubt i could look people in the face to be honest.

What exactly do these CEO`s do for there money, on a day to day basis ? anyone ??

They say big salaries attract the "right kind of people" hmmm right for what though ?

How many people could be fed for £140k and for how long ?

These charities may of been set up with the very best of intentions, but have become embroiled in the consumerism of the first world, if a charity really wanted to be ethical, non of its employees should be paid more than a living wage in my opinion.

These fat cat CEO`s are all apart of the problem rather than the solution.

Couldn't agree more, Sourcrates! There's a national animal charity that have their offices near me (a very expensive part of the country). I feel that the money donated should not be used to give the directors a very nice lifestyle, thank you very much!! They also use a lot of the donated money for political causes, again probably not what the donators intended. Personally, I wouldn't give them a penny and would far rather support little local charities who really need the money and use it for what it was actually intended.

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I give to the charity medicine san frontiers as on their website, they are transparent with how they spend the funds.

I also feel so lucky compared to those that are suffering - so will help in any little which way I can.

badmemory

I believe it should only be necessary to donate to non-human type charities. How I wish that was actually true. What a world we live in when children particularly need to depend on our charity to survive and even be rescued. That is without even leaving the UK. Back in the day (remember when we were idealistic) I always thought that this would be totally sorted but I think a lot of us just sold out. I really hope I wasn't one who did. I only donate to one charity and hope I have made the right (ever increasing) decision. My reason for doing this is because of a friend. She never told me, but I realised from her reaction to several things and finally a suicide attempt after the death of the perpetrator, that she had been abused. I am making it clear to the holder of my power of attorney that even when I become incapable of managing my own finances these donations should continue.

As for the sell outs amongst my then friends, well the main 2 sell-outs were gone before they hit 60, so is that karma or me being a female dog? This female dog doesn't care!

pinkspideruk

I give to a local animal rescue charity and a local homeless charity - small amounts as and when I can afford it and donations of goods to sell for funds and occasional donations of my time for events and stalls. Both are appreciative of what I can give, neither knock on my door or try to stop me in the street to get me to sign up to anything.

At Uni I signed up to donate to a well known animal charity only £2 a month as thats all I could afford. Thye would constantly call me, knock on my door or write to me asking for more money after 6 months I stopped the DD as I was fed up of being hassled continuously - when cancelling my DD I was pretty much called a liar, an animal abuser and a whole host of other things and made to feel like a pile of poop. I can imagine if I wasnt so confident or if I was more vulnerable that such aggressive tactics would make cancelling the DD or saying no to demands for more money very hard. Which brings me back to supporting local grass roots charities who do not employ such bully boy tactics.

Yes I am in debt and yes I am on a budget but I will continue to give to charity as I feel fit in the ways in which I can afford to