Will Brexit really be good for Britain?

vivatifosi

The wrangling bit is my concern kab. Those pesky right wingers in Austria have just been brushed under the carpet for a bit, same with France if Le Pen loses next year. Give it a couple of years and we could be playing fascist Whack a Mole. Very disturbing.

adindas

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Lets ask some leave voters how financially committed they are to the Brexit cause....
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-11/half-u-k-leave-voters-not-prepared-to-be-worse-off-in-brexit

Oh dear....
Not very committed at all then.
This could turn very ugly, very quickly, once the huge costs of leaving become felt in people's wallets and people realise they've been conned by the Brexiteers....

Nobody talks about £350 million a week cost of membership. I wonder where is £350 million a week going
Nobody talks that NHS will get more money.

Thrugelmir

adindas wrote: »

Nobody talks about £350 million a week cost of membership. I wonder where is £350 million a week going

The UK is net contributor. Other countries are net beneficiaries. A redistribution of wealth by what is essence a socialist union.

CKhalvashi

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The UK is net contributor. Other countries are net beneficiaries. A redistribution of wealth by what is essence a socialist union.

The tiny (in relative terms) of the cost to the UK is far outweighed by the benefit to British businesses of hassle free exports and ease of doing business with 500 million people.

It also makes goods cheaper for the UK consumer for exactly the same reason in reverse.

Not really a redistribution in wealth if we look at the overall picture, is it?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

CKhalvashi wrote: »

The tiny (in relative terms) of the cost to the UK is far outweighed by the benefit to British businesses of hassle free exports and ease of doing business with 500 million people.

It also makes goods cheaper for the UK consumer for exactly the same reason in reverse.

Not really a redistribution in wealth if we look at the overall picture, is it?

Indeed.

The UK gets back around ten times more in financial benefits than we pay in to the EU.

cogito

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Lets ask some leave voters how financially committed they are to the Brexit cause....


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-11/half-u-k-leave-voters-not-prepared-to-be-worse-off-in-brexit

Oh dear....

Not very committed at all then.

This could turn very ugly, very quickly, once the huge costs of leaving become felt in people's wallets and people realise they've been conned by the Brexiteers....

An 'independent' poll of 1615 people commissioned by a pro-remain group conducted by YouGov whose chief is married to Baroness Ashton who has one of the biggest snouts in the EU trough. Yes, you can trust that 100%.

There was another poll in June in which 17m people expressed the opposite view.

cogito

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Indeed.

The UK gets back around ten times more in financial benefits than we pay in to the EU.

In your opinion. Constantly repeating the same thing doesn't make it true.

CLAPTON

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Indeed.

The UK gets back around ten times more in financial benefits than we pay in to the EU.

mindless disinformation

so far you have produced some analysis (from people who have proved unreliable forecasters over the last 10 years)
that
a. we will continue to increase GDP per capita after brexit
b. the increase might possibly be about 0.15% p.a. less than some hypothetic figure

we really need people to start telling the truth to the people of the UK

michaels

CKhalvashi wrote: »

The tiny (in relative terms) of the cost to the UK is far outweighed by the benefit to British businesses of hassle free exports and ease of doing business with 500 million people.

It also makes goods cheaper for the UK consumer for exactly the same reason in reverse.

Not really a redistribution in wealth if we look at the overall picture, is it?

How do eu tariffs on for example food, clothes and tvs make things cheaper?

The only thing about the eu reducing prices is the availability of cheap unskilled labour which holds prices down for middle class users of service industries.

Both of which appear to particularly impact on the poorest.

Thrugelmir

CKhalvashi wrote: »

The tiny (in relative terms) of the cost to the UK is far outweighed by the benefit to British businesses of hassle free exports and ease of doing business with 500 million people.

It also makes goods cheaper for the UK consumer for exactly the same reason in reverse.

Not really a redistribution in wealth if we look at the overall picture, is it?

I'm unsure what the correlation is between trade and contribution to the EU budget. Nor what the perceived benefit to consumers is. I really don't envisage Companies making the price of goods cheaper. Cadburys for example was simply moved elsewhere in the EU to where production costs were lower. Thereby resulting in higher profits and a permanent loss of UK jobs and skills.

£8.5 billion is not a tiny sum. It's real money. That's borrowed and simply adds to the UK's debt pile.