Labour people, its time to dump Corbyn

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

Strikes and prison riots are the fallout from failed Govmt policies, a symptom of a system that isnt working. I fully understand that instead of actually engaging with the point it is easier to chant 'trotskyite'. You tea party types like to keep life simple dont you. Having someone to hate gives you purpose;)

the ACTUAL point you are making is you don't like the Tories and little to do with the suffering of the rail passengers or victims of crime.
I have invited comment on better sucessful criminal justice sysems with proven or even imputed track record at reducing crime but no takers as yet.

Do you believe Hoyle or was he lying?

Moby

bobbymotors wrote: »

Still won't put your money where your mouth is though will you?

You can have 6/1 now of you want, for charity, £600 of my money or £100 of yours?

You could even give momentum the money when (sic) you win

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/21/corbyn-critic-jamie-reed-quits-labour-mp-byelection-copeland
First real opportunity of the new year to test Rugged's claims re. Jeremy's popularity. A Labour marginal in the North up for grabs!

Doshwaster

Another challenge for Corbyn has Labour have a marginal seat to defend in Copeland following a resignation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38390152

Cumbria really isn't Jezza's natural habitat especially when so many jobs in the area depend upon the nuclear industry.

Moby

CLAPTON wrote: »

the ACTUAL point you are making is you don't like the Tories and little to do with the suffering of the rail passengers or victims of crime.
I have invited comment on better sucessful criminal justice sysems woith proven or even imputed trck record at reducing crime but no takers as yet.

Do you believe Hoyle or was he lying?

Clapton you are unbelievable sometimes....I don't think you are in a position to tell me the point I was making mate. You know my mind better than I do?
I do believe Sean Hoyle said that he wanted to bring down the Govmt....do you think what he says will give me sleepless nights though :rotfl:
He is an extremist loon! ....and I hope McCluskey gets toppled as well.

ruggedtoast

Moby wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/21/corbyn-critic-jamie-reed-quits-labour-mp-byelection-copeland
First real opportunity of the new year of Rugged's claims re. Jeremy's popularity. A Labour marginal in the North up for grabs!

Yes, and you can gloat your hands together in excitement at the prospect of the failure of the party that you "support".

One less Labour MP will be one less voice to speak out against the marginalisation of the poor and the low paid. One less voice to oppose the nepotistic kleptocracy of the Tories.

I imagine you can hardly contain your excitement.

Moby

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yes, and you can gloat your hands together in excitement at the prospect of the failure of the party that you "support".

One less Labour MP will be one less voice to speak out against the marginalisation of the poor and the low paid. One less voice to oppose the nepotistic kleptocracy of the Tories.

I imagine you can hardly contain your excitement.

It's not gloating...it really isn't.......... it's.............I TOLD YOU SO!

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

You know my mind better than I do?

yes when it comes to the tories as evidenced by your comment

I do believe Sean Hoyle said that he wanted to bring down the Govmt....do you think what he says will give me sleepless nights though :rotfl:

I'll predict that in any future discussion about rail strikes you will blame the Tories and not the blameless, non partisan, apolitical, nontrotskyite RMT.

Jason74

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yes, and you can gloat your hands together in excitement at the prospect of the failure of the party that you "support".

One less Labour MP will be one less voice to speak out against the marginalisation of the poor and the low paid. One less voice to oppose the nepotistic kleptocracy of the Tories.

I imagine you can hardly contain your excitement.

But surely this contest is great news for you. After all, Corbyn is surging in popularity as people come round to his way of thinking. An increased vote share in a relatively marginal seat will start the fightback and strengthen the dear leaders position.

If you are so confident in the direction of the party, what's not to like ?

markharding557

ruggedtoast wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/17/labour-gains-two-points-since-november



31% of people will vote Corbyn tomorrow!

Bad news for MSE's rightwing echo chamber.

Ouchy.

31% is no where near enough! The electoral map has become less favourable for Labour and could get worse and so they will need to get 40% + to get anywhere near power. Not going to happen! Labour should be renamed 'The Momentum party'

BobQ

ruggedtoast wrote: »

One less Labour MP will be one less voice to speak out against the marginalisation of the poor and the low paid. One less voice to oppose the nepotistic kleptocracy of the Tories.

I imagine you can hardly contain your excitement.

In my case the word is sadness.

One less Labour MP to speak out yes, but it is Corbyn and his momentum party that have let their core support down, and the country down as well for failing to provide effective opposition.

Blair is continually ridiculed but he won elections and did a lot of positive things whatever his failings.