How can people afford to rent?

PPPv2

marksoton wrote: »

No, you need to get in the real world.

You have a degree. Use it and get secure, full time employment. If that means moving etc so be it.

Whatever is the point of spending 3/4 years of your life educating yourself if you're not going to use it?

Pa_Ja wrote: »

Despite your situation not being favourable, you're very fortunate to have parents/in-laws to lean on.

Have you applied for a council house?
The current setup sounds overcrowding.

I wouldn't consider the house share. You're not going to have thr freedom you desire.

We are but it's not our preferred route. I understand how fortunate we are

marksoton

Arleen wrote: »

Don't confuse a degree with a qualification as one rarelly corresponds with the other.

@OP: best I can add here, as you clearly have bases of working hard covered, the one thing you really should do is rething your career strategy. Just sending around hundrets of CVs clearly doesn't work for you, and in reality for most people, because that is the least path of resistance and you are competing with horde of people doing the very same thing.

So ask yourself - how do you stand out from the sea of candidates? What can you do better than they can do? And be honest, there is nothing wrong if the answer comes back with "nothing". If that is the case, figure out how you could stand out in local market, maybe some courses, or maybe some internship. Either one will require for you to cut back the hours and "toughen it up" even further, but gives some actual path to improvement.

Once you have a way to stand out of the hordes then it's matter of getting noticed for the job. Don't send hundrets of cvs, instead pick just few companies and don't send your cv in email - go and deliver it in person instead. If they won't let you in, be creative - pretend to be delivering donughts or flowers, just so you can get past the doors and deliver the CV personally. If that is absolutely not an option, write a personal letter to the manager, with a bona fide personal, honest, letter about why do you think you would be great, share some of your story. In short - make yourself a human, not another email.

This will require proper research of who the manager is, where is his office etc, but trust me that if you will manage to do it - you will be noticed, you will be remembered, and your CV will be read.

It isn't an episode of suits!

marksoton

PPPv2 wrote: »

Already am in the real world. On a tea break wasting my time arguing with u.

So what do u suggest I turned down a pt job whilst I look forward my idea job?

I have used it and was good and liked where I was but u see I met a woman who I'd like a future with. I'll get there and I'll get there in the real world.

I'm sorry but with that lack of articulation no you won't. Not for a second.

mrginge

Most generic degrees are a waste of time and money.

Back in my day (lol) when a small percentage went and got one there was value.
These days, you don't just need the degree, but it needs to be a good degree from a good university.
And you need to have a clear idea what you're doing with it
And you need to have the motivation to get out there and push yourself.

Otherwise all you're doing is incurring a large amount of debt simply to defer unemployment/low pay for three years.

marksoton

mrginge wrote: »

Most generic degrees are a waste of time and money.

Back in my day (lol) when a small percentage went and got one there was value.
These days, you don't just need the degree, but it needs to be a good degree from a good university.
And you need to have a clear idea what you're doing with it
And you need to have the motivation to get out there and push yourself.

Otherwise all you're doing is incurring a large amount of debt simply to defer unemployment/low pay for three years.

This with bells and whistles.

The labourers i have are far more talented and skilled than the graduates i get sent.

It's a disgrace.

always_sunny

marksoton wrote: »

This with bells and whistles.

The labourers i have are far more talented and skilled than the graduates i get sent.

It's a disgrace.

labourers with degrees?? Is that because preparation school are so bad that a degree guarantees they can read at least? It is going mad!

selement

marksoton wrote: »

Then they chose a very poor degree.

I'd expect anyone to at least be in full time employment and earning £30K if properly qualified.

I don't have a degree. Should they really be going to Uni?

Not sure where you've got this from? As an example various NHS allied health professional degree would lead to a fairly secure job with a starting salary of 21k typically (band 5). Although I could get behind an argument that NHS staff are underpaid

This is what I did and 5 years of full time working later still earn less than 30k

OP: I'm afraid most affordability considers guaranteed/contracted hours so an officially full time job is a priority. Rents are getting increasingly expensive, and I have heard Oxford is very expensive anyway. I don't think a solution exists other than getting a better job sadly. Maybe look into the council house options?

marksoton

always_sunny wrote: »

labourers with degrees?? Is that because preparation school are so bad that a degree guarantees they can read at least? It is going mad!

I'm not joking.

From my experience those with trade skills are far more versatile and able to get things done.

Those who are allegedly educated are prone to procrastinating and talking a load of broken biscuits.

marksoton

selement wrote: »

Not sure where you've got this from? As an example various NHS allied health professional degree would lead to a fairly secure job with a starting salary of 21k typically (band 5). Although I could get behind an argument that NHS staff are underpaid

This is what I did and 5 years of full time working later still earn less than 30k

OP: I'm afraid most affordability considers guaranteed/contracted hours so an officially full time job is a priority. Rents are getting increasingly expensive, and I have heard Oxford is very expensive anyway. I don't think a solution exists other than getting a better job sadly. Maybe look into the council house options?

And if you worked for BUPA?

selement

marksoton wrote: »

And if you worked for BUPA?

Having never been interested in working for private companies I'm not certain, I have gathered from other colleagues you can ask for more than you'd get in NHS but won't get a lot more, a less good pension but the perks of a yearly bonus. I suppose if I was in a private company I might be just on 30k by now but certainly not newly qualified.