Why stick with XP instead of Vista?

BillScarab

tomsolomon wrote: »

I was looking at a laptop on the Dell website actually.
It had the option to have XP or Vista. I would go with XP every time, well for the time being anyway.
I still remember when XP came out and all the instability, crashes, downtime and security vulnerabilities. Its still being updated regularly now..
I recon it will be another 12 months before I even consider using Vista, and then it will only be as a secondary OS.

Then again I might just scrap Windows altogether and install Ubuntu..........

But that's the point, Vista has been released for 9 months and there haven't been instability, crashes, downtime and security vulnerabilities.

It's actually a decent OS and fine for home use certainly. We're not generally using it at work yet but I noticed that one of our VPs who came over from the US recently had it installed on his laptop. I'm sure it's not even on our corporate list of approved software either. :rolleyes:

As for IT professionals not using v1.0 of software, it depends on what it is and how useful it would be. In the past we've deployed brand new stuff where necessary.


I'd agree with Isofa that there are too many versions though.

tomsolomon

wolfman wrote: »

It depends upon your line of work/business.

We for example use Vista here, namely for IIS7, and also use the latest Visual Studio, Office 2007. We pick up open source packages some of which have been out for years and still not hit v1.0. We've not had problems with any of them.

In some cases it's best to wait, but in others you have to push, innovate and to do so you're often on the cutting edge.

Most companies typically wait 6 months, or for SP1 to arrive before switching. It's just standard practise, but it doesn't mean something is buggy or unstable.

I run Debian/Ubuntu at home, but run Vista via a virtual machine within it for any .Net development. It allows me to use Linux (and still to Java work) whilst also giving me a cutting edge Windows platform to work from.

That all very cutting edge mate but I'm afraid your competitors have the cutting edge due to the fact that they all use 2000 and XP beacuse they dont use so much memory proccessor and graphics and therefore their PC's run faster.
Sorry to dissapoint

wolfman

tomsolomon wrote: »

That all very cutting edge mate but I'm afraid your competitors have the cutting edge due to the fact that they all use 2000 and XP beacuse they dont use so much memory proccessor and graphics and therefore their PC's run faster.
Sorry to dissapoint

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I use a dual processor, dual core workstation with 3gb ram. Windows 2000 or XP won't run an faster than Vista. Even on my 1 year old Core 2 Duo there's no noticeable difference.

Strip away Aero and a couple of other services and Vista is no heavier than XP.

Obviously if it slowed development we wouldn't use it, but given the power of pc's and how cheap they can be, this won't be an issue for most businesses.

C_Ronaldo

Im sticking with vista until i change the pc and i can tell myself its worth getting over a copy of XP, at the minute XP is fine for me, i like it, im used to it and i dnot see any reason to change just yet

tomsolomon

wolfman wrote: »

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I use a dual processor, dual core workstation with 3gb ram. Windows 2000 or XP won't run an faster than Vista. Even on my 1 year old Core 2 Duo there's no noticeable difference.

Strip away Aero and a couple of other services and Vista is no heavier than XP.

Obviously if it slowed development we wouldn't use it, but given the power of pc's and how cheap they can be, this won't be an issue for most businesses.

You could also adjust your visual affects for best performance :rotfl:

IvanOpinion

and free up a bit of space by removing all that !!!!!! :whistle:

Ivan

Tao81

I was informed the other day by an IT person that if you buy a machine (we were talking about laptops) with Vista on it and wipe it down, then replace OS with XP you immediately invalidate the machines warranty :eek: ......Anyone else know anything about this??

I know at least one person who has actually done this and many more who would seriously consider doing it if they bought a new computer and there was no option to have XP as pre-loaded OS!!

wakandem

Other than areo desktop and widgets I can not see any functional difference that I consider an improvement. It was quite clear the fuctional differences between xp & win98. I am not sure that vista is more secure, when attacks move from xp to vista , we will see. But then again I am not that worried about security with xp, I have never really had a problem & certainly nothing in the last couple of years.

I will always wait before getting a new os just because I remember all my mates upgrading win98 with millenium, not really a benifit to any pc, but the pc's generally worked as fast

I'm sure in a year or so vista will be very good but I can not see any reason to upgrade an xp system to vista, even in a year or so.

The manufacturers are to blame for selling pc's that are not good enough for vista. Loads of laptops out there with vista premium but they only have a gig of ram that is shared with graphics. For an xp system to be that unresponsive run it 128mb ram, but then again pc companies were selling with xp installed and only 128mb ram when it first came out. No wonder it was considered crap.

isofa

Tao81 wrote: »

I was informed the other day by an IT person that if you buy a machine (we were talking about laptops) with Vista on it and wipe it down, then replace OS with XP you immediately invalidate the machines warranty :eek: ......Anyone else know anything about this??

I know at least one person who has actually done this and many more who would seriously consider doing it if they bought a new computer and there was no option to have XP as pre-loaded OS!!

It would be an odd warranty if that were true. Warranties on laptops (and PCs), from manufacturers relate to the hardware, so from that standpoint it's irrelevant whether the system is running XP, Vista, a Linux distribution or anything else.

Perhaps shops like PC World would come out with nonsense like that, who knows.

herman2811

Sorry, I'm not very technically minded about these kinds of things, but quick question:

When SP1 comes out for Vista, do you have to pay to get this or is it something like Windows Update that you get for free?

Sorry to be thick!