Dacia Logan

motorguy

iolanthe07 wrote: »

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with them. They're basically obsolete Renaults with the minimum of extra features, as reflected in the price.

They're really not.

They're a car brand in their own right and their cars arent just old Renaults rebadged like Daewoo would have done with old Vauxhalls.

They use Renault components, and thats not necessarily a bad thing

Stoke

motorguy wrote: »

I cant see retrofitting electric windows, alloy wheels, colour coding the bumpers, adding remote central locking, etc working out cheaper than getting it done by the manufacturer as part of a trim upgrade?

Well, personally, I wouldn't colour code a bumper or add alloy wheels. I mean, it's a Dacia? No amount of alloy wheel is going to make it remotely attractive, or desirable, or cool, or any number of positive adjectives. As someone else put, they're obsolete Renaults made out of pretty crap parts in the middle of Eastern Europe.

I was thinking more, you buy a leccy window kit with change from £50.
Stereo.... they're just universal double din with an empty hole yes? You could fit a high spec Android unit for a few hundred pounds. Or create a fancy kit using a tablet and external CD Player.

Speakers are easy and cheap to obtain. Wiring is easy. It might already be there in fact? What else? Steering controls perhaps?

Edit:
Oh, remote central locking. Easy.

Stoke

motorguy wrote: »

They're really not.

They're a car brand in their own right and their cars arent just old Renaults rebadged like Daewoo would have done with old Vauxhalls.

They use Renault components, and thats not necessarily a bad thing

I dunno. Renault's are dreadful. They're one of those car manufacturers I avoid like the plague, personal experience.

That said, I do like the idea of having a blank canvas for a car, like the Sandero. It's just a shame it's got a Renault engine and all the craftsmanship of a blind man making a sculpture with a cricket bat.

motorguy

Stoke wrote: »

Well, personally, I wouldn't colour code a bumper or add alloy wheels. I mean, it's a Dacia? No amount of alloy wheel is going to make it remotely attractive, or desirable, or cool, or any number of positive adjectives. As someone else put, they're obsolete Renaults made out of pretty crap parts in the middle of Eastern Europe.

Well its the sort of spec people expect these days as standard. Dacia charge a relatively small premium to up the spec to the next level


Colour coded bumpers, alloys, metallic paint and they're quite an inoffensive little thing.


UN spec white, black plastic bumpers and steel wheels with no wheel trims? No, not for me thanks but each to their own.

Stoke wrote: »

I was thinking more, you buy a leccy window kit with change from £50.
Stereo.... they're just universal double din with an empty hole yes? You could fit a high spec Android unit for a few hundred pounds. Or create a fancy kit using a tablet and external CD Player.

Speakers are easy and cheap to obtain. Wiring is easy. It might already be there in fact? What else? Steering controls perhaps?

Edit:
Oh, remote central locking. Easy.

Well if that's your bag go right ahead - however any electrical problems at all and I think your local Dacia dealer will wash their hands of any potential warranty claims with your aftermarket add ons and tampering with the electrics.


Also, the non poverty spec car will be worth a bit more - and be easier to sell come resale time, rather than a poverty spec car with some Macro wheels trims and ad hoc wiring. Don't forget none of the trade guides - and thus, dealers - will value the car as anything other than the poverty spec model, even if you have spent £££'s on "upgrades"

forgotmyname

Renaults are cars for others not me. Mechanically i will fix them if asked but electrically.. Nooo
Sister had a Megane with the famous electrical window problems. Now with a normal window motor you strip away the electronic side and its a motor with a + /- terminal. Ever stripped a Renault window motor? You cannot wire it to a battery directly. Stupid design.

Time is money and i want to rip the motor out and connect to a battery to decide if the motor ir serviceable, i dont want to spend 3 hours rigging up a controller for it.

Compare the NCAP results for the Logan and the Meriva. Dacia are sadly lacking there.

Stoke

motorguy wrote: »

Well its the sort of spec people expect these days as standard. Dacia charge a relatively small premium to up the spec to the next level


Colour coded bumpers, alloys, metallic paint and they're quite an inoffensive little thing.


UN spec white, black plastic bumpers and steel wheels with no wheel trims? No, not for me thanks but each to their own.





Well if that's your bag go right ahead - however any electrical problems at all and I think your local Dacia dealer will wash their hands of any potential warranty claims with your aftermarket add ons and tampering with the electrics.


Also, the non poverty spec car will be worth a bit more - and be easier to sell come resale time, rather than a poverty spec car with some Macro wheels trims and ad hoc wiring. Don't forget none of the trade guides - and thus, dealers - will value the car as anything other than the poverty spec model, even if you have spent £££'s on "upgrades"

Surely nobody sells their Dacia? Once you've bought it, you've bought it for 100k miles at least? They're pennies to buy in the first place, they can't be worth more than a packet of fags after?

As for warranty and wiring. Anything wired in should be wired in correctly, therefore I would expect warranty claims to be absolutely honoured. I wasn't talking about patching in wires and twist and tape....

Do it properly.

Stoke

forgotmyname wrote: »

Renaults are cars for others not me. Mechanically i will fix them if asked but electrically.. Nooo
Sister had a Megane with the famous electrical window problems. Now with a normal window motor you strip away the electronic side and its a motor with a + /- terminal. Ever stripped a Renault window motor? You cannot wire it to a battery directly. Stupid design.

Time is money and i want to rip the motor out and connect to a battery to decide if the motor ir serviceable, i dont want to spend 3 hours rigging up a controller for it.

Compare the NCAP results for the Logan and the Meriva. Dacia are sadly lacking there.

Had a friend with a Megane who had that. Is it the one where water gets into the door and then the window goes down and won't come back up?

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Stoke wrote: »

Had a friend with a Megane who had that. Is it the one where water gets into the door and then the window goes down and won't come back up?

Also the 6 hour job to change a headlamp bulb.

motorguy

Stoke wrote: »

Surely nobody sells their Dacia? Once you've bought it, you've bought it for 100k miles at least? They're pennies to buy in the first place, they can't be worth more than a packet of fags after?

As for warranty and wiring. Anything wired in should be wired in correctly, therefore I would expect warranty claims to be absolutely honoured. I wasn't talking about patching in wires and twist and tape....

Do it properly.

Theres a load for sale on autotrader which suggests otherwise.

Depreciation wise they're broadly in line with most other stuff out there.

The diy approach may work for you but speaking from a motor trade persepctive it's going to add £0 to the resale value and not be as cost effective as you seem to think for others.

A UN spec white with black bumpers and steelies would stick out like a sore thumb on the roads. I'd prefer the benefit of some factory fitted creature comforts and the relative anonymity on the road when you'd be driving one.

forgotmyname

What would the neighbours think if you bought the base spec one?

And when the rust starts on a white one oh dear. And the rust wont be far away.

Add that to the one of the few cars that rust.. Mercedes, Ford KA and any Dacia.