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  • usefulmale
    usefulmale Posts: 2,627 Forumite
    edited 4 December 2016 at 8:06PM
    If you consider that to be a like-for-like scenario then you are very much in need of a tin foil hat and some basic technical knowledge training

    But my security system does actually stream live content from CCTV in my house onto the web 24/7- so does the nursery that my son uses - can be very useful
    esuhl wrote: »
    Cool -- what's the IP address and login details? I'll have a nose round since you don't care about privacy and don't have anything to hide.

    They are coming for you .... . quick put up the barriers, they have your name, they know where you live - get that tinfoil hat on before you give yourself away

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Strange that you don't comply with the request, though.
  • RumRat
    RumRat Posts: 5,034 Forumite
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    They are coming for you .... . quick put up the barriers, they have your name, they know where you live - get that tinfoil hat on before you give yourself away

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    You seem to have missed the point.............entirely.....
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
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    Not an Alcoholic...!
  • at least Google can see it, i guess. what i'm scared the most this that someone can turn on my Webcam without my knowledge. I heard many stories about this. browsing web/using pc seems to be not secured at all even i try to use vpn.
  • ARandomMiser
    ARandomMiser Posts: 1,756 Forumite
    edited 5 December 2016 at 7:48AM
    usefulmale wrote: »
    Strange that you don't comply with the request, though.
    As I said, if you consider the two to be like-for-like then you seriously need to tighten up that tinfoil hat. :money:

    Besides that I don't have to give anyone the URL. If you buy a particular magazine from early this year you will see pictures of my house inside and out. Following your paranoia ... sorry ... logic, anybody who has allowed their house or garden to be featured in a newspaper or magazine should now be boarding up the windows and getting a 24 hour police presence outside.

    People need to catch a grip. You surf the internet (with or without a VPN) your habits will be traced ... you use a mobile phone, your habits will be traced ... you walk into a shop, your habits will be traced ... you use a search engine your habits will be traced ... you use a credit card, your habits will be traced .... you use a loyalty card, your habits will be traced ... you buy online, your habits will be traced .... you complete online surveys or use online vouchers, your habits will be traced .... you walk down the street, you will be followed. The biggest money spinner these days is knowing what your customer wants and their habits, they are then much easier to manipulate .... welcome to the 21st century.

    All this paranoia about what we know happens is incredibly juvenile. What people need to focus on is keeping the important information private such as PIN's, passwords etc. and worry a bit less about data from millions of users being analysed through a number cruncher.
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  • AndyPix
    AndyPix Posts: 4,847 Forumite
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    Hilssaut wrote: »
    what i'm scared the most this that someone can turn on my Webcam without my knowledge.


    Here you go :) .. Sorted ..


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  • ARandomMiser
    ARandomMiser Posts: 1,756 Forumite
    AndyPix wrote: »
    Here you go :) .. Sorted ..


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    Excuse me good sir, this is a money saving site and those sticky rolls of tapes don't grow on trees .... ya know! I lay mine face down on the desk so that Sue From Bognor Regis can examine my woodwork.
    IITYYHTBMAD
  • usefulmale
    usefulmale Posts: 2,627 Forumite
    As I said, if you consider the two to be like-for-like then you seriously need to tighten up that tinfoil hat. :money:

    Besides that I don't have to give anyone the URL. If you buy a particular magazine from early this year you will see pictures of my house inside and out. Following your paranoia ... sorry ... logic, anybody who has allowed their house or garden to be featured in a newspaper or magazine should now be boarding up the windows and getting a 24 hour police presence outside.

    You don't even have the courage of your convictions to name the magazine. What's that word that describes people like that?

    There is a world of difference in allowing a magazine to take a snapshot of your house and garden at a given point in time (with you having final say in what can be used, no doubt) and allowing anyone 24/7 access to monitor you in real time.

    That's why you are too much of a coward (that's the word I was looking for) to post the URL and login details.

    Got something to hide?

    (and don't bother mentioning tin hats in any reply. You are starting to sound repetitive).
  • Stoke
    Stoke Posts: 3,182 Forumite
    Mixed feelings for me. If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear and that totally represents 99.999999999% of people I reckon. This will hopefully track those who are dangerously close to becoming a little bit jacket-jacket bomby-bomby.

    That said, why should I have my browsing history logged? No doubt when this system (like every other government system) becomes corrupted, they'll start selling our private browser data to companies..... either companies to sue us for copyright theft, or advertising companies to start sending us dog !!!! via e-mail/post.

    Great stuff.
  • Code
    Code Posts: 58 Forumite
    Stoke wrote: »
    Mixed feelings for me. If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear and that totally represents 99.999999999% of people I reckon. This will hopefully track those who are dangerously close to becoming a little bit jacket-jacket bomby-bomby.

    You do realize that you just quoted a Nazi?

    The argument of "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" is quite possibly one of the the most insidious and unacceptable defences. I take it you don't agree with free speech either, even though you personally don't say anything controversial?

    https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2015/responding-to-nothing-to-hide-nothing-to-fear

    Article 8 of the European Human Rights Convention guarantees the right to privacy. Unfortunately there's a massive loop hole that allows states to nullify this under the guise of "national security".
  • bluesnake
    bluesnake Posts: 1,460 Forumite
    edited 5 December 2016 at 10:48PM
    If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him."
    Cardinal Richelieu

    Look hard enough and 99.999999% of us could be under suspicion and possibly 'guilty' of things. Forget that what is being done is not illegal, it is just immoral.

    Now lets forget the government too, but focus on the clowns looking after out data, so far we have had the following UK data breaches:
    Three Mobile (2016)
    Tesco Bank (2016)
    Sage (2016)
    Kiddicare (2016)
    TalkTalk (2015)
    Moonpig (2015)
    Think W3 Limited (2014)
    Mumsnet (2014)
    Staffordshire University (2014)
    Morrison's supermarket (2014)
    Sony PlayStation Network (2011)
    Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust (2010)
    T-Mobile (2009)
    HM Revenue & Customs (2007)
    Nationwide Building Society (2006)

    So all isp, will have to store all this lovely data about customers browsing habits. How many people got burnt when Ashley Madison got hacked, and your isp data has got even greater potential to do harm.

    Lastly we in the UK only log for a year thanks to the EU. Our government initially wanted the sata to be kept for 7 years.

    There is not going to be anything good coming out of this new law and it is a train wreck waiting to happen, just wait for it.
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