Been sent parking fee notice by PPS

dllive

although that admittedly was highly specific case.

How do you mean? That he overstayed by an hour? (Ive just watched the Judgment summary video - I think Im egtting a bit obsessed with this!)

Umkomaas

dllive wrote: »

How do you mean? That he overstayed by an hour? (Ive just watched the Judgment summary video - I think Im egtting a bit obsessed with this!)

Because Beavis was about a specific car park with very clear signage - as the Supreme Court was anxious to point out after their judgment.

https://mobile.twitter.com/UKSupremeCourt/status/661846322417397760

Coupon-mad

Ive just been watching this, which, although is a few years old, explains the absolute basics of parking on private land (I thought this may be useful for someone): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaTKVPwo06I

I think the bit that gave me solace is ...

...the bit that's out of date! Sorry, no solace in that advice.

We will give you solace!

dllive

Ive just read my Notice to Keeper again and it contains the paragraph:


that if, after the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice is given— (i)the amount of the unpaid parking charges specified in this notice has not been paid in full, and (ii)we do not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, we will have the right to recover from you so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid;

Does or doesnt that cover me for a POFA defence? (obviously as long as I respond as the registered keeper!)
Thanks for all your assistance!

Coupon-mad

That particular wording covers them for 9(2)f or 8(2)f as you can see by comparing it to Schedule 4. Not bad IMHO.

But that's just one requirement. Their PCN is probably not awful, IIRC, so you might find it's not bad for wording in other respects too. But the POFA also requires:

- adequate notice of the parking charge itself, on clear signs (i.e. not £100 buried in wordy small print)

- a relevant contract with the driver

- a relevant obligation on the driver

All of the above rely on clear signage, without which there can be no keeper liability.

dllive

Thanks C-M. Im going to that car park first thing monday morning and take photos of the signage and Ill post it on here for your perusal (if thats ok?).

Im reading this: http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/appeal-service/ . They charge £19 for their service which Im happy to pay as it saves me time reading through lots of forum threads. (Its not about the money but the principal!!) Have you heard of these guys - do they have a good reputation?

pappa_golf

dllive wrote: »

Thanks C-M. Im going to that car park first thing monday morning and take photos of the signage and Ill post it on here for your perusal (if thats ok?).

Im reading this: http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/appeal-service/ . They charge £19 for their service which Im happy to pay as it saves me time reading through lots of forum threads. (Its not about the money but the principal!!) Have you heard of these guys - do they have a good reputation?

oh , dear ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

dllive

Oh dear - have I made a faux pas?

MothballsWallet

dllive wrote: »

Oh dear - have I made a faux pas?

To quote some internet reviewer: Yes, yes, you have.

This forum has already advised you for the princely sum of £0. The only cost to you has been to do some searching and reading to guide what you're writing in your appeal.

dllive

Oops! I didnt mean to belittle the time and effort that C-M and everyone else puts into this forum. Im massively grateful for the assistance Ive received here. Mea culpa.