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Eco_Miser

agrinnall wrote: »

I'm not sure that you can argue the 13 were countries in the way that England, Scotland etc. are, they were British colonies with a degree of self government but with no existence in that form before the arrival of the colonisers. There's a better claim for Texas as although it too started as a Spanish colony it did have a short period of independence as a republic before becoming a US state. I'll give you Hawaii though.

The 13 states had an independent existence of sorts for the 5 years between the declaration of independence and confederation. 12 years before the constitution was adopted.

England didn't exist as a country until well after the arrival of the colonisers that gave it its name.

darkidoe

jennifernil wrote: »

You guys must look dubious, it is at least 25 years since a shop south of the border refused to take a Scottish fiver, or bigger, off me.

This! Is pretty annoying! Does no good to promote a United Kingdom. Don't seem why people don't see any sense to change things.

agrinnall

jennifernil wrote: »

You guys must look dubious, it is at least 25 years since a shop south of the border refused to take a Scottish fiver, or bigger, off me.

Well, I don't bother wasting my time attempting it any more, but there have been plenty of occasions in the last 25 years when Scottish notes have been refused south of the border, and that's as a matter of policy rather than any comment on my dubiousness. And of course, given that all currency notes except those issued by the Bank of England are not legal tender (and I was slightly surprised to read that even BoE notes are not legal tender in Scotland!), even in their country of issue, it's not surprising if retailers and other businesses err on the side of caution.

http://www.scotbanks.org.uk/legal_position.php

PeacefulWaters

agrinnall wrote: »

Well, I don't bother wasting my time attempting it any more, but there have been plenty of occasions in the last 25 years when Scottish notes have been refused south of the border, and that's as a matter of policy rather than any comment on my dubiousness. And of course, given that all currency notes except those issued by the Bank of England are not legal tender (and I was slightly surprised to read that even BoE notes are not legal tender in Scotland!), even in their country of issue, it's not surprising if retailers and other businesses err on the side of caution.

http://www.scotbanks.org.uk/legal_position.php

It's not a legal tender issue.

It's a fear of forgery issue.

KateBob

bigadaj wrote: »

Just look around Europe though.

France, Germany, Spain, Italy are all federations of regions that often have little in common apart from language, and even language isn't necessarily consistent. From catalonia, to Brittany, to Bavaria to almost all of Italy there's little consensus and often little love for the central government and overall country.

I was going to mention Germany too.
It has been unified twice at least, once within living memory!

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Very importantly, please make use of the various Gaelic language teaching aids, and if you have time, watch as many episodes of Rab C Nesbitt, Chewin' the Fat and Still Game as you can; these will prepare you for many situations you may face.

If you are in a pub in Glasgow, and someone asks you what football club you support, on no account answer either Rangers or Celtic...... instead, offer up either Clyde or Partick Thistle but please do not make the mistake, widely made in England, of believing that the latter's full name is "Partick Thistle Nil". Also do not ask a barman for a shandy, or a lager and lime; these are widely regarded as cocktails and rarely available except in 5 Star hotels.

If in a fish and chip shop, generally, in the west you ask for salt and vinegar, but in the east it is salt and sauce. The reasons for this are lost in the mists of time, but probably relate to an ancient clan-related conflict about wiping fingers on curtains (or "spare blankets" as they are known here).

Happy to help with any other questions you might have.:cool:

Seriously though, enjoy your trip. If you can, get out of the big cities. The west coast islands, Inverness, Oban, the coastal villages of Fife all have things to offer.

Enjoy!

:beer:

WR

System

Legal tender is an English legal term.

Creditors are simply required to accept any reasonable form of payment.
Therefore, Bank of England notes have no more validity than Euro notes.

agrinnall wrote: »

Well, I don't bother wasting my time attempting it any more, but there have been plenty of occasions in the last 25 years when Scottish notes have been refused south of the border, and that's as a matter of policy rather than any comment on my dubiousness. And of course, given that all currency notes except those issued by the Bank of England are not legal tender (and I was slightly surprised to read that even BoE notes are not legal tender in Scotland!), even in their country of issue, it's not surprising if retailers and other businesses err on the side of caution.

http://www.scotbanks.org.uk/legal_position.php

Reggie_Rebel

Don't try to take their freedom.

pogofish

Remember an up to date guidebook as the internet can be patchy in some areas:

pogofish

Sncjw wrote: »

I wasnt winding you up. As I say I haven't been to Scotland as an adult only as a small child.

It was proclaimed only as recently as the 16th of January 1707:

‘That the two Kingdoms of (fn. 1) Scotland and England, shall, upon the first Day of May next ensuing the Date hereof, and for ever after, be united into one Kingdom by the Name of Great-Britain, and that the Ensigns Armorial of the said united Kingdom, be such as her Majesty shall appoint; and the Crosses of St. Andrew and St. George be conjoined in such a manner as her Majesty shall think t, and used in all Flags, Banners, Standards, and Ensigns, both at Sea and Land.

You have no excuse for not knowing this!