Autumn statement - November the 23rd

davidgmmafan

Not until youngsters start voting in bigger numbers.

Seriously though this is probably one of the main reasons the triple lock exists even though it has largely corrected the disparity between pensioner incomes and average earnings.

I do think something needs to be done to actually encourage saving but it won't be because of the continuing desire to prop up house prices...

padington

davidgmmafan wrote: »

Not until youngsters start voting in bigger numbers.

Seriously though this is probably one of the main reasons the triple lock exists even though it has largely corrected the disparity between pensioner incomes and average earnings.

I do think something needs to be done to actually encourage saving but it won't be because of the continuing desire to prop up house prices...

Saving ? The powers that be don't really want people saving, that's all lip service. We might want to save, they don't want us to save though.

They want us to spend spend spend and they cheer every time we do. Literally every time, in the House of Commons.

Any talk about helping savers is just a hedge bet incase May's generation of policiticans, through limiting immigration and subsequent negative economic effects that would bring, cause a significant increase in interest rates.

Thrugelmir

davidgmmafan wrote: »

Seriously though this is probably one of the main reasons the triple lock exists even though it has largely corrected the disparity between pensioner incomes and average earnings.

Set in a different economic era. Times have changed. For the foreseeable future anyway.

autumn2012_2

The young will get screwed, corporations will win, pensioners will stay the same and nothing much will change

CLAPTON

autumn2012 wrote: »

The young will get screwed, corporations will win, pensioners will stay the same and nothing much will change

what would you prefer

the young inherit the earth, without working
corporation all go bankrupt
the old, starve

autumn2012_2

CLAPTON wrote: »

what would you prefer

the young inherit the earth, without working
corporation all go bankrupt
the old, starve

No I would prefer this:

A 21yr old getting paid the same as a 25yr old for doing the same job
Corporations to start paying a decent wage with decent rights to their staff and their taxes
The state pension be means tested as some pensioners are incredibly wealthy and also that ex pats dont travel back the uk just to cash their pensions and get their health sorted out.

A fairer society for all not just the group that mostly vote Tory

Thrugelmir

autumn2012 wrote: »

The state pension be means tested as some pensioners are incredibly wealthy

Why should people that manage their money well get means tested?

State Pension is universal and should remain so.

CLAPTON

autumn2012 wrote: »

No I would prefer this:

A 21yr old getting paid the same as a 25yr old for doing the same job

in some jobs the extra experience is worth more money as the person is more productive.

Corporations to start paying a decent wage with decent rights to their staff and their taxes

what is a 'decent ' wage : is that more or less that the value the worker produces?
if the worker produces less value that be is paid there will be no point in employing them

what do you think the 'right ' wage should be?
should people with skills or knowledge or experience be paid more that those without?

yes the government should ensure that the correct level of taxes are paid.

The state pension be means tested as some pensioners are incredibly wealthy and also that ex pats dont travel back the uk just to cash their pensions and get their health sorted out.

A fairer society for all not just the group that mostly vote Tory

incredibly wealthy people pay a lot of tax so a little more probably wouldn't hurt

the USSR and China of the red guard and Pol Pot had fairer societies.

autumn2012_2

CLAPTON wrote: »

in some jobs the extra experience is worth more money as the person is more productive.



what is a 'decent ' wage : is that more or less that the value the worker produces?
if the worker produces less value that be is paid there will be no point in employing them

what do you think the 'right ' wage should be?
should people with skills or knowledge or experience be paid more that those without?

yes the government should ensure that the correct level of taxes are paid.



incredibly wealthy people pay a lot of tax so a little more probably wouldn't hurt

the USSR and China of the red guard and Pol Pot had fairer societies.

As soon as you start making silly comments like those then you lose all credibility. I wish you all the best for the future

caronoel

He really has to do something about Osborne's tenant tax before it filters into higher rents and encourages tax evasion.

Ireland tried a similar populist tax gab twice in recent times: once during the boom times of the late nineties, and once in their depression phas! after the crash.

On both occasions, the tenant taxes were quickly reversed