Honda Jazz airbag recall and crash

Mercdriver

securityguy wrote: »

"Indeed. 100mph head-on impact with a van"

Indeed. A quick back of the fag packet calculation says that such an accident dissipates about 0.5MJ and exposes the occupants to at least 10g for more than 100ms. That's a vast amount of energy, and for someone who isn't wearing a HANS device and isn't in a six point harness to get away with that with only chest pain is what most people would think of as a miracle, or at the very least a testament to good engineering, good design and the wonders of finite element analysis. I remember in the 1990s, when I hung around the HPC community, being amazed at just how much computing power was being used by car manufacturers to model impacts so they could design monocoque cars which would collapse progressively so as to keep the deceleration survivable.

But not, sadly, the OP, who thinks that anything less than walking away completely uninjured from a high-energy, high-speed accident shows that Honda must be at fault. The word is "ungrateful". The compensation culture in this country is absolutely shocking.

OP, you had a massive, high energy accident. The monocoque of the car was perfectly designed to be sacrificed progressively to lengthen the deceleration pulse so that your brain didn't smash against your skull and your heart and liver stayed away from your ribcage. The airbags functioned perfectly and kept your head away from the steering wheel and the windscreen and, probably, your knees away from the structure of the car too. The pedal box collapsed so that whoever was driving didn't have their ankles broken. The seatbelt pre-tensioners kept you away from the sides of the car. All those engineers, doing their job.

And all you want to do is whine about how it was dusty and noisy and your chest hurt and can I sue Honda for doing their job so well. Your car saved your life. That was great. Stop whinging.

Get a grip. You should work for BBC drama.

OP don't expect anyone to give you the benefit of the doubt here. It's often a cesspit of vipers.

lorryw

Thanks, I think I have learnt my lesson. I will never venture onto this board again!

lincroft1710

lorryw wrote: »

Thanks, I think I have learnt my lesson. I will never venture onto this board again!

You had presumed that your airbags were faulty, posters have just reassured you that the airbags in fact worked properly and your presence here is a testament to that.

Oldfatgrumpy

nickcc wrote: »

Toyota, and I would imagine many other vehicle manufacturers, have the same airbag problem. I have been waiting well over twelve months for my RAV 4 airbag to be replaced but due to the enormous number of replacements required this is constantly being postponed.

Me too, also a RAV4. Got the recall warning letter over a year ago, got 2nd identical letter around a month back.

David_Aston

Don't be put off lorryw. Generally the guys/gals on here, can be very helpful with all sorts of problems.
Just on your topic, we received the letter for our Jazz so long ago, I had forgotten about it till reading your post!

icicles

Skibunny40 wrote: »

I have a Honda Jazz 55 plate, and got the airbags replaced in February, around 9 months after I got my letter. I called the local dealer when I was concerned about no further contact from Honda. Local dealer said they had been waiting to hear from me and booked me in immediately!

Honda really need to up their game if people are still only just getting letters now.

Hi I contacted the Honda main dealer where I purchased the Jazz from new when I received the letter in May. I was told I would have to wait until Honda contacted me for a replacement & it would be some time so must wait my turn. The thought of the air bag going off in an accident is scary. These air bags are deemed faulty so accounts of the over inflated bags exploding with even greater force plus the possibility of some metal parts exploding like shrapnel is even more frightening.

icicles

lorryw wrote: »

Thanks, I think I have learnt my lesson. I will never venture onto this board again!

Don't give up or get upset by the nasty replies. The majority of people are really helpful and give great advice. Some skip through the post without stopping to really understand the point or question you are making & have too much time on their hands! You warned the drivers who have still not had their letters & reminded some who have been waiting so long for replacements that it is about time Honda did something about it. Well done.

forgotmyname

You dont want compensation, but you just wanted to contact them regarding replacement airbags for a vehicle you no longer own?

Twopints

forgotmyname wrote: »

You dont want compensation, but you just wanted to contact them regarding replacement airbags for a vehicle you no longer own?

Another idiot. You and securityguy are clearly incapable of reading or comprehension.

arcon5

jase1 wrote: »

It would be interesting to see how the investigators determine that the design defect on these inflators is to blame in crashes involving 15-year-old cars, as was the case in the most recent example in the USA.

Could it not simply be the case that, after 150% of its stated lifetime the system simply became faulty in some of these cases?

You may think it's wear and tear, fortunately Honda and the regulators don't agree.

Airbags in most vehicle are the same for the entire life of the vehicle and generally last much longer than your mentioned 10years. I like most would expect a 15-20 year old cars airbags to work like they would on a 1 year old car