Honda Jazz airbag recall and crash

lorryw

Thank you. The letter only arrived today, dated November 2016.

Skibunny40

I have a Honda Jazz 55 plate, and got the airbags replaced in February, around 9 months after I got my letter. I called the local dealer when I was concerned about no further contact from Honda. Local dealer said they had been waiting to hear from me and booked me in immediately!

Honda really need to up their game if people are still only just getting letters now.

forgotmyname

Fat_Walt wrote: »

I hope the werthers originals survived.

Yes they were intact, and the items that caused the most damage.

You had a 40/50mph impact and surprised that it hurt?

You should watch top gear where Hammond crashed the Porsche, a minor incident he said. They commented on the airbags going off where he replies that he expected them to be like resting your head on a big fluffy pillow but in reality its like being hit in the head by a brick.

Of course there will be smoke and dust, airbags and belt tensioners exploding, dust from the cars vents and carpets and seats etc.
Then you get the eletrics shutting down supply to the fuel pump etc.

A lot goes on in a crash, remember when you see the crash tests, they are brand new cars that dont have vents full of dust and fuel tanks will have been drained etc.

dannyrst

Always go for the 6 point harness and a helmet/hans device. I believe they are an optional extra over the airbag...

[Deleted User]

Your airbag worked perfectly.

The powder prevents the bag sticking to itself.

It didn't burst, it's not sealed, but in fact vented.

This should show it well enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mXRL09M35k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcajZHc6Yk

lorryw

Sorry, I don't get the continual reference to Werthers!

Nasqueron

lorryw wrote: »

Sorry, I don't get the continual reference to Werthers!

People who drive Honda Jazz are normally "older" people and older people have werther's originals in their car

securityguy

I just love the sight of people whose response to being alive after an accident which would have probably ten, and certainly twenty years ago been fatal, now starting to sniff around for compo because they don't understand how airbags work.

"I remember the pain and panic and that the airbag had burst and there seemed to be powder in the air."

it didn't burst: airbags are vented and collapse within a few hundred milliseconds of full inflation. The powder is precisely normal: it will be a mix of the talc used to keep the layers of the folded bag separate, and a very small amount of silicate glass which is the end-product of the sodium azide reaction used to power the airbag (and probably also stuff from the pyrotechnic seatbelt pre-tensioners).

Cars have airbags. Those airbags saved your lives. They're noisy, dirty and pretty brute force objects. Most people would be glad, and think "wow, those airbag designers did a good job". You're scatting around for compo with the claim that the airbags "burst". You should stop watching Daytime TV.

AdrianC

securityguy wrote: »

I just love the sight of people whose response to being alive after an accident which would have probably ten, and certainly twenty years ago been fatal...

Cars have airbags. Those airbags saved your lives. They're noisy, dirty and pretty brute force objects. Most people would be glad, and think "wow, those airbag designers did a good job".

Indeed.
c.100mph head-on impact with a van...

securityguy

"Indeed. 100mph head-on impact with a van"

Indeed. A quick back of the fag packet calculation says that such an accident dissipates about 0.5MJ and exposes the occupants to at least 10g for more than 100ms. That's a vast amount of energy, and for someone who isn't wearing a HANS device and isn't in a six point harness to get away with that with only chest pain is what most people would think of as a miracle, or at the very least a testament to good engineering, good design and the wonders of finite element analysis. I remember in the 1990s, when I hung around the HPC community, being amazed at just how much computing power was being used by car manufacturers to model impacts so they could design monocoque cars which would collapse progressively so as to keep the deceleration survivable.

But not, sadly, the OP, who thinks that anything less than walking away completely uninjured from a high-energy, high-speed accident shows that Honda must be at fault. The word is "ungrateful". The compensation culture in this country is absolutely shocking.

OP, you had a massive, high energy accident. The monocoque of the car was perfectly designed to be sacrificed progressively to lengthen the deceleration pulse so that your brain didn't smash against your skull and your heart and liver stayed away from your ribcage. The airbags functioned perfectly and kept your head away from the steering wheel and the windscreen and, probably, your knees away from the structure of the car too. The pedal box collapsed so that whoever was driving didn't have their ankles broken. The seatbelt pre-tensioners kept you away from the sides of the car. All those engineers, doing their job.

And all you want to do is whine about how it was dusty and noisy and your chest hurt and can I sue Honda for doing their job so well. Your car saved your life. That was great. Stop whinging.