Email alias with free e mail provider - help!

YorkshireTraveller

An update:

Have just spoken to easily. It's not possible to send from gmail via the easily smtp servers as a logon and password is needed (I have just tried and it doesn't work).

If we go down the route of getting an e mail account with easily for Aunt then we have to remove both forwarding addresses so Uncles e mail will no longer redirect to gmail and will no longer work! Catch 22.

We would need to have two separate e mail accounts with easily.

I think that Aunt will have to live with a standard gmail account (albeit she can still give out her e mail address as aunt@auntdomain.co.uk and set this as the reply to address in gmail).

Does anyone know if Yahoo have definitely stopped the ability to configure their e mail accounts using an alias address? A search on the internet suggests that this is possible but it may have changed as the facility to add an alternative address is no longer there in the Yahoo mail settings.

Thanks again for everyones help and advice.

esuhl

Yorkshire_Traveller wrote: »

Have just spoken to easily. It's not possible to send from gmail via the easily smtp servers as a logon and password is needed (I have just tried and it doesn't work).

Aren't Easily just a registrar? Wouldn't you have to pay extra to use their SMTP servers, (assuming you've only used them to register your domain and not for any email service)?

What (I think) you want to do is send email from your domain address via your ISP's SMTP servers.

And when you say you're sending "from GMail"... do you mean the GMail website? Instead of using webmail, I'd try setting this up in an email client (like Thunderbird) instead. There shouldn't be any problems logging in to a server with a username and password.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/thunderbird/

If authentication/login problems prevent you from sending from your domain by default, let your ISP know about your domain, and they should let add it to their whitelist so you can send mail.

What ISP are your aunt/uncle using?

YorkshireTraveller

esuhl wrote: »

Aren't Easily just a registrar? Wouldn't you have to pay extra to use their SMTP servers, (assuming you've only used them to register your domain and not for any email service)?

What (I think) you want to do is send email from your domain address via your ISP's SMTP servers.

And when you say you're sending "from GMail"... do you mean the GMail website? Instead of using webmail, I'd try setting this up in an email client (like Thunderbird) instead. There shouldn't be any problems logging in to a server with a username and password.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/thunderbird/

If authentication/login problems prevent you from sending from your domain by default, let your ISP know about your domain, and they should let add it to their whitelist so you can send mail.

What ISP are your aunt/uncle using?

Easily are the domain registrar but also proved a paid for e mail service. Aunt/Uncle would have to subscribe to this individually for two e mail accounts.

gmail has the facility to send mail via other smtp servers if configured correctly either from webmail or email client (see responses above), it then puts a "sent on behalf of" note in the e mail header.

My Aunt/Uncle use Plusnet as their ISP.

tronator

esuhl wrote: »

If I have an email address on domain (me@mydomain.co.uk) registered with registrar.co.uk, which forwards email tomy free GMX account (me123@gmx.co.uk) and I use smtp.myisp.co.uk as the SMTP server for sending mail as esuhl@mydomain.co.uk... what do I need to put in the SPF record?

Have a look here

http://www.spfwizard.net/

Your example should be something like

v=spf1 mx a:smtp.myisp.co.uk -all

But you can't be sure whether smtp.myisp.co.uk is the only mail server they use. You should check with them. You can also use an IP or a network in CIDR format in your spf record.

I use

v=spf1 include:_spf.strato.com -all

with Strato. They setup SPF records for the subdomain _spf.strato.com which they change if they change something on their end. By using "include" I can be sure that I always have all valid spf records in my spf record.

esuhl

Yorkshire_Traveller wrote: »

Easily are the domain registrar but also proved a paid for e mail service. Aunt/Uncle would have to subscribe to this individually for two e mail accounts.

Right. My registrar also offer email hosting, but I'd have to pay for it. Instead I use GMX (a free email host), but you could use GMail, Yahoo, etc.

Easily will probably tell you (as my registrar does) that the only way to do what you want is to buy email hosting services from them, but that's not true.

Yorkshire_Traveller wrote: »

gmail has the facility to send mail via other smtp servers if configured correctly either from webmail or email client (see responses above), it then puts a "sent on behalf of" note in the e mail header.

That's presumably because GMail's SMTP servers don't recognise your domain address... Or just due to the way that GMail's SMTP servers are set up. So, use the ISP's SMTP servers instead.

Yorkshire_Traveller wrote: »

My Aunt/Uncle use Plusnet as their ISP.

I've had a very quick skim-read of their help section and forum, and it sounds like you don't need to do anything special to be able to send mail from your own domain. So long as the PC is connected via PlusNet (as the ISP), you can use their SMTP servers to send mail from anyone... I think.

https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Setting-up-email-from-my-own-domain-using-relay-plus-net/td-p/1093706

And, if you're out of the house and not using PlusNet, you just need to log in to their SMTP server with a username and password:

https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/Unable-to-send-from-relay-plus-net-using-password-authentication/td-p/1283008

Give it a go. :-)

YorkshireTraveller

Problem solved!

I have been able to set up Aunt's gmail account using a workaround for using an alias with a forwarded e mail address.

As mentioned in my first posting gmail no longer gives a simple automatic way of a 'treat as alias' address as it did in the past.

I have been given instructions on how to set this up manually.

Thanks for everyone's contributions and such an interesting discussion.

esuhl

Yorkshire_Traveller wrote: »

Problem solved!

Yay! Great news! :T

Yorkshire_Traveller wrote: »

I have been given instructions on how to set this up manually.

What were the instructions? There might be other people coming to this thread with the same problem. What did you do to fix things?

YorkshireTraveller

esuhl wrote: »

Yay! Great news! :T



What were the instructions? There might be other people coming to this thread with the same problem. What did you do to fix things?

Instructions here