Email alias with free e mail provider - help!

Code

What is the domain you're trying to send mail from, or if you don't want to disclose that, who is the host / registrar of the domain? As someone has posted above already, it's likely that the registrar will offer some (maybe free) solution to this. All the major registrars like 1&1, 123, uk2 etc all do.

Code

Incidentally what you,re trying to do here is spoof the source of the email - send it via namespace A SMTP, but display as tho it's coming from namespace B. This spoofing will be prevented by many mail security gateways (technical reasons, DNS, IP addressing etc) Open relay will also get blacklisted / RBL to stop spam, hence requirement for authenticated send.

This is one of the reasons "on behalf of" is there.

YorkshireTraveller

Code wrote: »

What is the domain you're trying to send mail from, or if you don't want to disclose that, who is the host / registrar of the domain? As someone has posted above already, it's likely that the registrar will offer some (maybe free) solution to this. All the major registrars like 1&1, 123, uk2 etc all do.

It's registered with easily.co.uk

They do offer an e mail service @ £9.99 per year (not sure if that is per domain or per e mail address).

neilmcl

Yorkshire_Traveller wrote: »

It's registered with easily.co.uk

They do offer an e mail service @ £9.99 per year (not sure if that is per domain or per e mail address).

You don't want their email service what you need is an email forwarding service, which a lot of domain services provide for free.

YorkshireTraveller

neilmcl wrote: »

You don;t want their email service what you need is an email forwarding service, which a lot of domain services provide for free.

They already have this (through easily) but want the ability to then send from the forwarded to account as though it was coming from their domain name.

My Uncle already has this as I set it up with gmail a few years back. Now my Aunt wants the same thing so she can have her own e mail address but g mail have withdrawn the facility for new customers.

Code

Set Gmail to use your easily. Co.uk SMTP servers with auth. Unless you're saying you've done this and it absolutely didn't work?

https://gmail.googleblog.com/2009/07/send-mail-from-another-address-without.html?m=1

Fundamentally you're running into SPF/dkim and the drive to solve mail security & spoofing issues. Any proper mail system will let you send using your own domain if you're using your SMTP servers.

Is there some reason you don't want to just set them up with outlook, windows mail, some other desktop or end client / mobile solution (not webmail)?

YorkshireTraveller

Code wrote: »

Set Gmail to use your easily. Co.uk SMTP servers with auth. Unless you're saying you've done this and it absolutely didn't work?

https://gmail.googleblog.com/2009/07/send-mail-from-another-address-without.html?m=1

Fundamentally you're running into SPF/dkim and the drive to solve mail security & spoofing issues. Any proper mail system will let you send using your own domain if you're using your SMTP servers.

Is there some reason you don't want to just set them up with outlook, windows mail, some other desktop or end client / mobile solution (not webmail)?

At the moment their easily account is for domain hosting only - if we go down the route of using the easily SMTP servers I guess they would simply use the easily mail platform as a standalone and no need for routing through a third party.

My Aunt would use the standard e mail program that is on her new laptop (Windows 10) - hence the request for her own e mail address linked to their domain name.

Perhaps for the sake of £9.99 this would be the best route.

paddyrg

Code wrote: »

Set Gmail to use your easily. Co.uk SMTP servers with auth. Unless you're saying you've done this and it absolutely didn't work?

https://gmail.googleblog.com/2009/07/send-mail-from-another-address-without.html?m=1

Fundamentally you're running into SPF/dkim and the drive to solve mail security & spoofing issues. Any proper mail system will let you send using your own domain if you're using your SMTP servers.

Is there some reason you don't want to just set them up with outlook, windows mail, some other desktop or end client / mobile solution (not webmail)?

I think OP is trying to avoid using the Easily SMTP servers because it's a tenner a year to do so.

YorkshireTraveller

paddyrg wrote: »

I think OP is trying to avoid using the Easily SMTP servers because it's a tenner a year to do so.

it would be nice (given that my Uncle doesn't pay anything at the moment) but looks like £9.99 may be the way to go for Aunt.

I'll need to check with easily tomorrow if only one of the e mail addresses associated with their domain (Aunt's) can use their servers and leave the other (Uncle's) to forward to gmail or check on the options that are available.

Hope that you can make sense of what I'm try to say above!

Code

Then what you are trying to do is categorically not possible. You are trying to spoof an email source using a legit 3rd party SMTP MTA, which every advancement in mail security for years is exactly trying to prevent (SPF, DKIM, DMARC, IP rep etc).because this is how spam and phishing happens.

Your options are:

1. Pay the money and use the easily SMTP servers
2. Find an open relay and use it until it gets RBL'd, then find another one (bad choice)
3. Set up your own SMTP relay
4. Move your domain away from Easily, because they seem terrible. Switch to someone that offers the service for free and doesn't overcharge extortionately, e.g.: 123-reg etc

I suggest #4 as best solution, #1 as easiest.