How to stop people smoking outside a school.

Person_one

SailorSam wrote: »

It's not just Schools. I know whenever i've had to go the hospital you see the smokers there. The Royal here in Liverpool particularly they have signs and the pavements painted reminding people their on hospital property but still the smokers are there, even patients who've come out in wheelchairs with drips still attached.
There are security men but they're on a losing job trying to stop it.

A lot of trusts have seen sense now and have put the smoking shelters back up. Smokers will always smoke, unless they are physically prevented, and its much better that they are reasonably close to the hospital entrance (but far enough that they're not wafting smoke all other everybody else), protected from the elements a bit, able to sit down, with an ashtray available and on CCTV in case something goes horribly wrong!

indsty

If staff are seen smoking outside the school I would be having a conversation with the Headteacher and politely pointing out that this really isn't what you, as a parent, want to see. Teachers cannot give children good healthy messages in a classroom and then go and do the opposite in full sight.

As far as other parents go - I totally agree it is despicable, but very little you can do. The Headteacher however could mention it in school newsletters etc and ask that they try to desist.

clint_S

ska_lover wrote: »

Ahh so I see, the PSPO are not legal notices, they are merely advisories, and if police confront street drinkers, the drinkers can tell them to jog on, as they aren't breaking any laws?

Under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 the police may ask you to stop drinking in 'Controlled Drinking Zones'. If asked you must stop drinking and surrender the alcohol. It is not illegal to drink in these areas.

ska_lover

clint_S wrote: »

Under the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 the police may ask you to stop drinking in 'Controlled Drinking Zones'. If asked you must stop drinking and surrender the alcohol. It is not illegal to drink in these areas.

What if people say no, I will not stop drinking, I know my rights and it is not illegal? No leg to stand on really have they

ska_lover

clint_S wrote: »

Again compared to telling someone to moan at cars because some said they don't like people smoking outside a school.


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That is the second time you have said that, and aimed it at me -Are you responding to a different discussion?

seven-day-weekend

I'm an ex-smoker of 25 years and now hate both the habit and the smell with a vengeance.

Nevertheless, smoking on the footpath is not illegal. Instead of demonising smokers any more than they are already, how about using it as a chance to educate the children about smoking?

They will see plenty else in the world they don't like and have to learn that the world does not revolve around them. Maybe if they get used to this fact, we won't in the future see people rioting just because there is an election result they don't happen to agree with.

Give the smokers somewhere they CAN smoke, then they won't be outside on the pavement.

clint_S

ska_lover wrote: »

What if people say no, I will not stop drinking, I know my rights and it is not illegal? No leg to stand on really have they

Surely that would come under Obstructing a Police Officer - section 89(2) Police Act 1996

ska_lover

clint_S wrote: »

Surely that would come under Obstructing a Police Officer - section 89(2) Police Act 1996

So it is Legal to drink in a controlled drinking area. Unless you are asked to stop and you don't - then it is illegal?

clint_S

ska_lover wrote: »

That is the second time you have said that, and aimed it at me -Are you responding to a different discussion?

You quoted my first post twice in which I responded to someone stating they should complain to drivers of cars about the pollution. So I'm simply stating that compared to the post it was responding to it isn't. post 9 I replied to in post 18. You in post 19 and 21 called my post melodramatic

melanzana

Ask, don't dictate or give orders about it firstly. Polite signs asking people to just move a bit away from the gates as it sends the wrong message to the children. Have to start somewhere.

Staff should not be allowed smoke outside the school I think. But a small shelter could I'm sure be provided somewhere else for them. If not, then they too should move away from the entrance. That's just common sense.

I'm sorry to say it, but the parents who are smoking in full view of the kids are probably still in their pyjamas aswell. OMG what have I just said there!

We saw what happened when a brave head teacher asked parents to dress appropriately when dropping kids to school. NO WAY, we will wear what we like was the majority response. So it never works demanding anything nowadays, it's all rights and entitlements now.

Anyway, the next generation will not smoke I don't think. It is far too passe nowadays with all the lurking and no smoking indoors and lack of advertising and all the rest of it. What is left is a bit of smoke in the air really.

If the teachers had any sense they would get the kids to tell the parents to stop smoking outside THEIR school, as it's not cool! Out of the mouths of babes....