Postal Services signing for goods

dmg24

So what criminal offence has been committed?

dmg24

craig, you don't know everythingblogcast do you, by any strange bizarre chance?!

smcaul

Thats the one, I could not remember who it was - will be interesting to see the response!!!!

craig7006

No i am afraid i dont know everythingblogcast but they have posted before on my dell post. What i am getting at is that the driver/postie signs SJobs for the Jobs household when the driver/posties name is Peter Mills. As i know that the parcel can be signed for by other members of the household. But legally if they left the parcel in the bin and theives are about and see this and the driver/postie signs Household name then the household would need to prove that no one was home.

mpython

Craig, AFAIK the contract is with the sender, not the receiver of mail/ parcels. The conditions of that contract will state whether the item is delivered to an individual or an address, and what constitues proof of delivery - either a signature or electronic track (apparantly RM's Airsure doesn't have signatures!).

For you to suffer from identity theft, you would have to establish what lose has been incurred.

One tangential point, there is a long established practice in business of signing letters "PP" (per procurationem a Latin Phrase meaning signing on behalf of someone). Are you saying secretaries up and down the country will be prosecuted soon?

If you don't like the delivery driver signing for your items to show delivery, why don't you use shopping companies that use the type of delivery service you're after?

craig7006

however the receiver /buyer of goods is the one who pays for postage. And the pp practice is as you say long established and their bosses give them premission but the secretaries sign thier own names they dont sign their bosses. this is my point posties/drivers sign as a member of the household/receiver family member. And you dont know the law. Under the law identity theft is classed as someone taking on your identity and that is what the postie/driver does. So there i would advise you to learn the meaning of terms. and not be so cheeky to OP.

smcaul

craig7006 wrote: »

however the receiver /buyer of goods is the one who pays for postage. And the pp practice is as you say long established and their bosses give them premission but the secretaries sign thier own names they dont sign their bosses. this is my point posties/drivers sign as a member of the household/receiver family member. And you dont know the law. Under the law identity theft is classed as someone taking on your identity and that is what the postie/driver does. So there i would advise you to learn the meaning of terms. and not be so cheeky to OP.

He may pay the postage, but unless you have organised a courier to collect on your behalf the contract is with the shipper and the courier they choose to use. You are paying the company you buy from extra to have the item delivered - hence why it is called post & packing - in actual fact RM does not charge VAT yet the company you buy from will charge you VAT on the postage & packing as they are offering that as a chargeable service that they make money on, hence your contract is with the shipper not the courier, so there is noting you can do, it is down to the shipper.

As for identity theft, this has been explained on a similar thread, to prove the theft of identity the thief would have had to gained out of the theft - i.e. if he signed to say the item was delivered but in actual fact he kept it then that would be theft, but not identity theft, he was not using your details as such to procure goods or services, he would have signed to say something was delivered when it was in fact stolen.

You really have not got a leg to stand on, report it to the company you purchased the item from, thats all you can do as that is where the contract is, you have no contract with RM/PF so it is unlikely they will deal with you - at the most you may be paid some lip service to get you off their back but thats about all!!!!

dmg24

Spot on smcaul.

Wrong again everythingblogcast :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

dangeroussports

The OP is bonkers

uktim29

I bet the police are falling over themselves to deal with this!

Hmm "wasting police time"