Boomers Pension Gravy Train Finally To Be Derailed

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

If I were you, rather than asking me to justify what reductions boomers should receive, I would worry about how you are going to persuade millennials and Gen X to keep funding your lavish retirement benefits long after it's become apparent that there won't be any of the sort themselves.

It's alright sitting here in the right wing boomer bubble forum, where all the right wing boomers are 100% united in their view that that the boomers have asked so they must receive forever and ever amen.

Out in the real world (from where all these newspaper articles originate) thing aren't looking quite so rosy.

In fact one might wonder if the gravy train isn't headed for some rather windy and treacherous looking track...


But I paid in!

hi toxic toastie

as it happens I was chatting to my mate, the rich boomer Jeremy, last night and discussing some of the unpleasant people on the left wing of his party who are constantly belittling people like himself and his politbureau.

apparently, once they get in power, the boomer trio, led by the enforcer McDonnel and ably supported by the racist hypocrite Abbott are planning to 'solve' the problem of toasties once and for all: the plans include making people like that toast.

antrobus

vivatifosi wrote: »

I wonder if it is the same in all countries...

The UK also experienced a post-war baby boom, although not as marked as the US. I would guess that other 'western' countries had the same thing to some extent. But maybe not elsewhere in the world.

vivatifosi wrote: »

... I feel more Gen X than boomer (am on the cusp), and Billy Idol started a band called Generation X, but he was born in 1955, so is definitely a boomer! Confusing...

I liked Generation X. At least I have their first two albums. On vinyl.

antrobus

CLAPTON wrote: »

..as it happens I was chatting to my mate, the rich boomer Jeremy...

Born 1949. 100% baby boomer, so obviously he won't be doing the right thing, even if he has the chance.

vivatifosi

antrobus wrote: »

The UK also experienced a post-war baby boom, although not as marked as the US. I would guess that other 'western' countries had the same thing to some extent. But maybe not elsewhere in the world.



I liked Generation X. At least I have their first two albums. On vinyl.

I liked Gen X too.

I was probably born as part of the baby boom (or at the end of it), but don't identify with it as like many my age, bought my first one bedroom house at the end of the 1980s so didn't benefit from a first cheap house - the mortgage was c£450-500pcm off the bat. My brother, who is def Gen X by any definition, bought his first house in the early 90s and benefitted from significantly lower prices as they had dipped by then. Our life experiences and opportunities - other than he still has a bigger house - are not that different.

It's more to say that you can't fit everyone neatly into a box and tar them all with the same brush. More aimed at Rugged than you!

bobbymotors

Wild_Rover wrote: »

Well, thankfully, you are not me and I get to decide what questions I ask. I know that the lefties don't like answering questions as doing so simply reveals the paucity of their "arguments", but this IS a discussion forum.

The fact that you decline every opportunity to answer questions indicates that you are not really competent to engage in serious debate, so until you have the guts to answer them you'll be thankful that you'll hear no more from me, unless your drivel reaches a such a level that it can't be igored.

WR

Yep, never an answer, always envy, jealousy, hate and vitriol.

But that's the left for you, plenty of rhetoric about what's wrong, no credible answers about putting it right.

Nothing changes, except that the left are finished for the foreseeable future.

good job too.

chris_m

bobbymotors wrote: »

Yep, never an answer, always envy, jealousy, hate and vitriol.
But that's the left for you, plenty of rhetoric about what's wrong, no credible answers about putting it right.

Putting things right would go against the grain - they'd have to try and put things left

TrickyTree83

bobbymotors wrote: »

Yep, never an answer, always envy, jealousy, hate and vitriol.

But that's the left for you, plenty of rhetoric about what's wrong, no credible answers about putting it right.

Nothing changes, except that the left are finished for the foreseeable future.

good job too.

I sincerely hope so.

They're trying to revise history on Fidel Castro, and there's an outpouring of grief for him on twitter. Unbelievable.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-corbyn-hails-fidel-castro-as-a-champion-of-social-justice-a7440696.html

How have these "thinkers" managed to pervert academia, politics and society?

I fear when the boomers do shuffle off this mortal coil I'm going to be left amongst a generation X that's bereft of critical thinking, logic and reason.

CLAPTON

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I sincerely hope so.

They're trying to revise history on Fidel Castro, and there's an outpouring of grief for him on twitter. Unbelievable.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-corbyn-hails-fidel-castro-as-a-champion-of-social-justice-a7440696.html

How have these "thinkers" managed to pervert academia, politics and society?

I fear when the boomers do shuffle off this mortal coil I'm going to be left amongst a generation X that's bereft of critical thinking, logic and reason.

you have to consider the open hatred of the left for democracy and the US & UK
one can see this clearly in Corbyn 'stop the war' coalition which only comments of US/Western bombing but is absolutely silent on Russian bombing and of course on Castro's dictatiorship (Corbyns 'alternative' way)

TrickyTree83

If you want to have a laugh check out twitter #TrudeauEulogies

Then check what Justin Trudeau actually said about Castro, the left has lost the plot. Totally.

They've got to be totally un-electable across the entire Western hemisphere now, or if not now in the next 5 years? They'll all be out of government and blaming everyone but themselves.

BobQ

ruggedtoast wrote: »

If I were you, rather than asking me to justify what reductions boomers should receive, I would worry about how you are going to persuade millennials and Gen X to keep funding your lavish retirement benefits long after it's become apparent that there won't be any of the sort themselves.

It's alright sitting here in the right wing boomer bubble forum, where all the right wing boomers are 100% united in their view that that the boomers have asked so they must receive forever and ever amen.

Out in the real world (from where all these newspaper articles originate) thing aren't looking quite so rosy.

In fact one might wonder if the gravy train isn't headed for some rather windy and treacherous looking track...

Where do you get this right wing boomer bubble concept. There are many people who are in the boomer age group who do not have right wing politics, me included. I see no connection between my wealth and my politics. Many boomers have worked hard all their lives and bought a modest house and contributed to an occupational pension. Why castigate them for it?

Many people have paid NI contributions and paid for their state pensions and also contributed to occupational pensions that provide a modest income. Not everyone is retiring on fat cat pensions you know! Even then, most of those with occupational pensions still pay income tax. The problem that younger people have is partly low paid jobs but we need to address this together not by dividing old from young. Its also the fact that they are not investing enough in a pension. Some cannot afford it, but many choose not to pay towards them.