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Boomers Pension Gravy Train Finally To Be Derailed

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  • antrobus wrote: »
    Edward Jones is 72, thus born in 1945 and more likely a war baby than a boomer.



    Your Daily Mail link states that;

    Edward Jones has been retired for seven years and has a state pension of £7,033 and private pension of £11,032 a year.

    That would be £1,505 per month.

    The ability to read and perform simple arithmetic can be useful skills .:)

    Indeed. I suggest you acquire them.

    His wife is yet to retire so doesn't have her arm in the cookie jar yet.
  • Cornucopia wrote: »
    This is some kind of Logan's Run fantasy, right?

    I think RT should skip to the end where all the young people tug Peter Ustinov's beard and read all his books.

    Stopping only at the bit in the middle where Jenny Agutter gets the lot out to snarl, "Boomer filth".
  • mystic_trev
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    Another stroke of luck for the boomers! ;)
    Members of Generation X are most likely to suffer a stroke, new research suggests.

    While baby boomers - those born between 1945 and 1954 - have the lowest rates of any generation born after them.

    Despite their drinking and smoking, the post-War generation have seen their risk of suffering a stroke fall, while it has doubled than people in their thirties and forties.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3964778/Are-Generation-X-likely-stroke.html
  • Cornucopia
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    Stopping only at the bit in the middle where Jenny Agutter gets the lot out to snarl, "Boomer filth".

    I'm now imagining a Red Dwarf-Logan's Run mash-up in which a dystopian society run by a maniacal talking toaster practices ritual age-related genocide.
  • As Rugged is unwilling to answer my questions in #358, I'll point out that the retired couple he complains about so bitterly in #363 have presumably worked for many years to build up their non-state pension entitlements and were contributing to it at the same time as paying far higher income tax rates than Rugged is paying now.

    What's up Rugged...... are the questions in #358 too hard for you? What basic tax rate would you want to see now? 30%? 35%?

    Will it encourage a reply if I tell you that my pension as an early retired bloke is not too different from the bloke in the couple you clearly hate in post #363?

    Come on, I'm sure I can stand it! However, it would be nice if you could answer my questions at the same time as passing out the grief that will inevitably come my way :cool: .

    WR
  • antrobus
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    dlk wrote: »
    Indeed it would...you've completely missed out the wife's current 20k salary and once she retires state + private pension she is due to receive.

    But she's working, and thus not on the 'boomers pension gravy train'. Although at 60, she probably does qualify as a 'boomer' at least. Boomers are still allowed to work aren't they? I'm not really sure. Perhaps they should be liquidated as well.
    chris_m wrote: »
    ....In other words, no news, just more of the unpleasant rhetoric to which we have become accustomed from you.

    I don't think the OP understands that the triple lock which he disapproves of, was introduced in 2010, and is scheduled to end in 2020. At which point it will be replaced by something else. It might be triple lock 2.0, or it might be something else. Nothing will be derailed - it's only a question of which track to choose.
  • Wild_Rover wrote: »
    As Rugged is unwilling to answer my questions in #358, I'll point out that the retired couple he complains about so bitterly in #363 have presumably worked for many years to build up their non-state pension entitlements and were contributing to it at the same time as paying far higher income tax rates than Rugged is paying now.

    What's up Rugged...... are the questions in #358 too hard for you? What basic tax rate would you want to see now? 30%? 35%?

    Will it encourage a reply if I tell you that my pension as an early retired bloke is not too different from the bloke in the couple you clearly hate in post #363?

    Come on, I'm sure I can stand it! However, it would be nice if you could answer my questions at the same time as passing out the grief that will inevitably come my way :cool: .

    WR

    Look, he just wants the state to take your house and give it to him and he wants the state to impoverish you. Remember toastie thinks poor filth aren't poor enough and rich filth are too rich.

    So that's going to play really well at GE2020.
  • ruggedtoast
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    Cornucopia wrote: »
    This is some kind of Logan's Run fantasy, right?

    I think RT should skip to the end where all the young people tug Peter Ustinov's beard and read all his books.

    Priceless.

    Also completely indicative of the state of mind of The Selfish Ones. A group that apparently conflates being asked to live on slightly less free money as being the equivalent to geronticide.

    Truly this is The Spoilt Generation in action.
  • Priceless.

    Also completely indicative of the state of mind of The Selfish Ones. A group that apparently conflates being asked to live on slightly less free money as being the equivalent to geronticide.

    Truly this is The Spoilt Generation in action.

    Ah! Nearly getting to specifics now..... do you have a notion of what this "slighly less" actually means, or is it another soundbite?

    WR
  • Cornucopia
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    Priceless.

    Also completely indicative of the state of mind of The Selfish Ones. A group that apparently conflates being asked to live on slightly less free money as being the equivalent to geronticide.
    To be fair, your concerns seem to fluctuate around a much wider range of issues than just a few quid less on a State Pension - we've had private/company pensions and housing equity on this thread, and ISTR BTL/Landlords, housing under-occupancy and the cost of healthcare previously.

    It does tend to beg the question: what are you proposing, practically, to deal with these other issues? The State Pension is the easy one, really: if the Government decides to pay a bit less, it will do so. The other things are not so simple, because you are talking about appropriating wealth accumulated over someone's working life.

    You can certainly tinker with the tax treatment, and maybe you can encourage older people to downsize their housing (as if the monetary benefit is not enough encouragement). But actually appropriating wealth and/or housing is a big step worthy of fundamentally "bottom rung" leaders like Mugabe. (If that's what you're suggesting).

    Truly this is The Spoilt Generation in action.

    Oh, I see, you think that because I have issues with your ranty diatribe against the old, I must be old myself.

    As far as I can work it out, I am Generation X, not that I think it makes much difference to understanding the basic facts and morality in play here.
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