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Am I prejudice?????

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  • knightstyle
    knightstyle Posts: 7,271 Forumite
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    edited 5 November 2016 at 10:49AM
    We only let the French house as it didn't sell. It is let furnished to friends who are thinking of moving to France. There are no near neighbours.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    We only let the French house as it didn't sell.
    You mean you chose to let it because it wouldn't sell for as much money as you wanted.
  • Mr.Generous
    Mr.Generous Posts: 4,017 Forumite
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    whatever the finances are and the finger pointing about 'sell for less', nothing excuses the bad and anti social behavior from neighbors. Trouble is we tolerate it, and once it has started the only people who will move in are like minded. I think a proportion of social housing dwellers are problem tenants, as are a proportion of private renters and a proportion of home owners. The question is what percentage? Because of the housing market in the uk it's difficult to put into monetary terms.

    Lets assume we split the housing into 4 broad categories in any area. Band A are the cheapest - in the North West that would be sub £100k properties. Band B would get you a very nice flat or an ok house in a so-so area. Band C nice houses, big semi's or detached, working families, professional couples. Band D very desirable luxury homes.

    I'd say the proportion of people who would allow an overgrown garden strewn with rubbish, kids running wild and causing noise and disturbance to others would be much greater in Band A, a handful in B, rare as hen's teeth in C and pretty much non-existent in band D

    (Ah I could have used council tax bands now I think of it, just that there are more of them)

    I renovate property for a living. The one thing we try (not always successfully) to avoid is buying next door or close to the run down wreck of the street. We try and buy the wreck. Neighbors generally welcome the improvement.

    Property - and the immediate area - can change very quickly however. I scummy family move in, feral kids, rusty broken down car, old sofa dumped at the side and a rotting mattress in the garden. Somehow its contagious.

    Is it down to renting? Well I doubt many who pay out hard earned money treat them like that, but I'd say its down to people rather than money. If the scumbag family won the lottery what do you think their new luxury home would look like after two years?
    Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    There are no near neighbours.

    Bingo.

    Is this maybe the problem? No neighbours meant no annoyance.

    That's now changed.
  • Had a similar problem one side of me was rented out and other owned by the numptie who lived there, Thankfully all kicked off with escalating drunken behaviour and noise when knew I was going to move on retirement, so didn't complain to police or council as knew would have to declare to potential buyers. The relief the day I moved was immense, not having the constant noise or beer cans in my garden etc.
    It is no joke having that in your life as for being pedujice towards those people Yes, but you would be if they owned their properties
  • Marvel1
    Marvel1 Posts: 7,458 Forumite
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    edited 5 November 2016 at 12:18PM
    I knew this street for 27 years (lived at the end), and bought a house 9 years ago, peaceful, 3 years ago 2 bad neighbours in the street, next door to me (not directly to me, but a bit uncomfortable when all out the back drinking etc and did not help with wall being only at waist height, and pegging out washing the way the washing line went I was almost as if in their garden at one end). I know they had regular arguements with the other young people couple of doors down, fighting - Police etc.

    The ones down the street were evicted by the landlord (place was trashed), then eventually the next door neighbour has moved out this year also. The landlord told me what they had done to the house, awful, even give me their number in case of any future problems, even happy for me to raise the wall and fencing on top, as next door but one did the same.

    New neightbours now moved in 3 weeks ago, not heard anything and street is quiet again :) (so far).
  • Ok a few facts about us, pensioners who retired to UK after living and working inFrance for many years.We have a £40k interest only mortgage which we will pay off when we sell our house in France, it is let at the moment for another 2 years. The BS have told us they will not give us another mortgage if we move.
    Yesterday one family was evicted, all their stuff is now under a tarpaulin on the pavement. The lets are private, no housing association, some of the landlords live abroad, the local letting agent is useless at dealing with complaints.

    Sadly, a small but very vocal minority of troublesome tenants give the rest of us a bad name! If the properties are privately rented, local people need to put some pressure on the landlords to get some decent tenants in. If it were a Housing Association they would probably have little choice in who they let to, because they tend to take the ones the council send them.
  • SuzieSue
    SuzieSue Posts: 4,109 Forumite
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    I hope that neighbours from hell move in next door to all the people mocking the OP.

    It can happen to any street, so all the smug earlier posters had better hope it doesn't happen to their street.

    There was a similar thread about a block of flats yesterday, this time the police didn't take arson seriously because no-one was killed.

    I really don't know what the answer is but something needs to change as there are too many decent families going through the hell that the OP is going through.
  • csgohan4
    csgohan4 Posts: 10,600 Forumite
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    SuzieSue wrote: »
    I hope that neighbours from hell move in next door to all the people mocking the OP.

    It can happen to any street, so all the smug earlier posters had better hope it doesn't happen to their street.

    There was a similar thread about a block of flats yesterday, this time the police didn't take arson seriously because no-one was killed.

    I really don't know what the answer is but something needs to change as there are too many decent families going through the hell that the OP is going through.



    You cannot control what other people do, but you can control what you can do, i.e move if possible, if not then that's life just like it is for the rest of us
    "It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"

    G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP
  • Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade, private tenants are much more likely to cause problems than home owners, they're not concerned about the state of the property they live in as they don't have to fork out for repairs. Of course some LL's have a lot to answer for renting out to trouble makers in the first place and turning a blind eye as long they get their money.
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