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  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
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    edited 8 November 2016 at 5:20AM
    I am well aware of global population trends.

    My point is that global birth rates have fallen 50% in just the last few decades - western country birth rates have almost all been below the replacement rate for the last 30- 50 years - some developed nations are already reaching a crisis point of an ageing population with millions fewer working age people to support them than is required for population stability.

    China has abandoned it's one child policy having seen their population of working age people is already falling, and will fall further without urgent action....

    It took the USA 70 years to get from 7% of the population being of retirement age to around 20% - China will do it in the next 25 years.

    The depopulation of Russia is shockingly rapid - Russian population is on track to fall from 140m today to just 100m by 2040 - very bad news for the ability of the state to raise enough taxes to manage the largest geographic nation in Europe.

    Japan's working age population has been falling for 20 years straight - and in that time they've racked up the largest national debt in the World at over 200% of GDP (versus 86% of GDP today in the post bank bailout and QE UK) to pay for their ageing crisis.

    Germany needs another 24 million immigrants by 2040 just to keep their population of working age people at today's levels.

    If current trends in falling birth rate continue global population will peak by 2060 and then decline rapidly - but alarmingly if global birth rate decline continues to accelerate at the progression we've seen in the last decade since the globalisation of information networks - we could hit peak population much, much sooner - 2040 or so.

    The coming population crisis is not one of too many people - it's of too few.

    The wars of the future will not be fought over oil, or water, or land - they'll be fought over the most vital natural resource of all - young people.
    Interesting post......had no idea Russias population was declining so fast. Isnt Africa more than making up for the decline in western population though. I read somewhere that Nigerias population is going to be bigger than that of the USA soon. Are you saying that even the growth trends in Africa will peak in 2060 and then population all over the world will decline? By then we'll have synths looking after us surely;)
  • MobileSaver
    MobileSaver Posts: 4,344 Forumite
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    gazapc wrote: »
    For thos hoping for a second vote, be careful what you wish for.

    Now that the Leave lies have been exposed I would be very happy to take my chances with a second vote; I suspect we would get a very different result.
    Every generation blames the one before...
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  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    zagubov wrote: »
    If you drive around the UK you find lots of empty land. Lets use it for something more than hunting and shooting..

    ....I think you'll find the rest of us call it countryside ....and we quite like using it for walking and relaxing....
  • movilogo
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    I would be very happy to take my chances with a second vote

    After exactly how many referendums remoaners would accept defeat? :D
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    gazapc wrote: »
    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/eu-referendum-polls/

    For thos hoping for a second vote, be careful what you wish for.

    Why? It doesn't matter what the result of a second election would be, more that the voters will be better informed.
    A complaint that EU referendum voters were misled by the Leave campaigns is being considered by the Crown Prosecution Service, it has been announced.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/07/cps-considers-complaint-that-leave-campaigns-misled-eu-referendu/
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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