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UK government suffers Brexit court blow

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  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    and if the scrunity stretched to say 10 - 15 years, would that be OK before invoking article 50

    There's no need to stretch it out that long.

    Just have parliament provide proper scrutiny and instruct the government what terms we'll leave on.

    That will likely be as a member of the EEA/EFTA.

    We'll trade like that for a decade or so and then the campaign to rejoin the EU can start.:)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    edited 5 November 2016 at 2:24PM
    There's no need to stretch it out that long.

    Just have parliament provide proper scrutiny and instruct the government what terms we'll leave on.

    That will likely be as a member of the EEA/EFTA.

    We'll trade like that for a decade or so and then the campaign to rejoin the EU can start.:)

    my original question was about whether MPs preventing brexit by whatever artifical devices, was democratic
  • MobileSaver
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    so you would consider it a democractic result, if article 50 was never enacted and brexit never occurred.

    If the "will of the people" at some point in the near future was to remain in the EU then of course that would be a democratic result. :)
    Every generation blames the one before...
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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    If the "will of the people" at some point in the near future was to remain in the EU then of course that would be a democratic result. :)

    indeed so,

    what exactly is your point? that no decisions can ever be made on any subject because in the future people may change their mind?
  • posh*spice
    posh*spice Posts: 1,398 Forumite
    The minority Remainics will destroy this country - like all minorities do....
    Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.
  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    There's no need to stretch it out that long.

    Just have parliament provide proper scrutiny and instruct the government what terms we'll leave on.

    That will likely be as a member of the EEA/EFTA.

    We'll trade like that for a decade or so and then the campaign to rejoin the EU can start.:)

    Definitely a possible outcome.

    If we do try to rejoin it will be on far worse terms than we have now so if it did come to that it will be an interesting debate!
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • Moto2
    Moto2 Posts: 2,206 Forumite
    I think we'll first need to get through the spectacle of the Tory party tearing itself apart.
    No bad thing really.
    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.
  • MobileSaver
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    what exactly is your point? that no decisions can ever be made on any subject because in the future people may change their mind?

    The point is that by the time it comes around to making that decision many more people will have changed their mind. :)
    posh*spice wrote: »
    The minority Remainics will destroy this country

    I thought it was the Remainers who were supposed to promote Project Fear not Leavers like you?!?! Neither side will "destroy this country" but we will be worse off if we leave the EU than if we stay.
    posh*spice wrote: »
    like all minorities do....

    Any evidence of this or just a vile racist rant against "minorities?"
    Every generation blames the one before...
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  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    There's no need to stretch it out that long.

    Just have parliament provide proper scrutiny and instruct the government what terms we'll leave on.

    That will likely be as a member of the EEA/EFTA.

    We'll trade like that for a decade or so and then the campaign to rejoin the EU can start.:)

    Yes and people are really going to vote for that - not.

    You see Hamish the UK is a democracy - politicians can't just ignore the wishes of the public (any more.)
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    posh*spice wrote: »
    The minority Remainics will destroy this country - like all minorities do....
    What minority?
    Voters' views on EU membership have changed since the June referendum, with Remain now having majority support.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-majority-uk-remain-eu-theresa-may-article-50-second-referendum-latest-a7395811.html
    :)
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
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