UK government suffers Brexit court blow

CLAPTON

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

I know. But it seems very unlikely that the Government will be a position to invoke article 50 at the end of March 2017, hence significantly longer than 2 years.

the only reason why article 50 wouldn't be enacted, would be deliberate procastination by remainers MP who wish to stop brexit at any cost.

CLAPTON

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Once we initiate article 50..... Yes.

However proper Parliamentary scrutiny and passage of the requisite legislation enabling the government to initiate article 50 may take quite some time...;)

Indeed so, do you consider that a win for democracy ?

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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

However proper Parliamentary scrutiny and passage of the requisite legislation enabling the government to initiate article 50 may take quite some time...;)

Enough time for another Scottish referendum?

Zero_Gravitas

CLAPTON wrote: »

the only reason why article 50 wouldn't be enacted, would be deliberate procastination by remainers MP who wish to stop brexit at any cost.

No. However, one possible reason why Article 50 wouldn't be invoked would be because the two houses of our parliament are making sure that the Government are actually going to define what Brexit means and exactly how they plan to achieve that; rather than the wild leap into the darkness the hard Brexit lobby seem to propose.

CLAPTON

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

No. However, one possible reason why Article 50 wouldn't be invoked would be because the two houses of our parliament are making sure that the Government are actually going to define what Brexit means and exactly how they plan to achieve that; rather than the wild leap into the darkness the hard Brexit lobby seem to propose.

so you would consider it a democractic result, if article 50 was never enacted and brexit never occurred.

Zero_Gravitas

Don't understand how you draw that conclusion from the conversation we have had. However, in an attempt to clarify - article 50 will be invoked after appropriate scrunity. But that will mean our exit is more than 2 years away.

Wenlock

Once article 50 is invoked we have a maximum of 2 years before our exit; it doesn't have to take that long.

T May will want us out well before the 2020 election and the EU want us out before the next EU elections in Spring 2019.

Nothing to stop the UK invoking article 50 in Spring 2018 and advising the EU that we will leave, lock stock and barrel, in 12 months - trading on WTO rules.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Wenlock wrote: »

Nothing to stop the UK invoking article 50 in Spring 2018 and advising the EU that we will leave, lock stock and barrel, in 12 months - trading on WTO rules.

Sure there is.

It's called 'sanity'.

CLAPTON

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

Don't understand how you draw that conclusion from the conversation we have had. However, in an attempt to clarify - article 50 will be invoked after appropriate scrunity. But that will mean our exit is more than 2 years away.

and if the scrunity stretched to say 10 - 15 years, would that be OK before invoking article 50

CLAPTON

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Sure there is.

It's called 'sanity'.

some would call it democracy : but you have answered my question now.